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Oink Jun 27th 2016 2:34 pm

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Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 11987135)


Those are the stocks that have gone up in recent days whilst everything else has collapsed. :amen:

You wait for the powers to jump at the chance to put duty on anything they can.

magnumpi Jun 27th 2016 3:06 pm

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Does anyone think that there really is a possibility that the UK would ignore the vote and just do nothing?

Canada news programming is advising this and saying basically, why not

Snowy560 Jun 27th 2016 3:18 pm

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I don't think they can just have it all go away. The genie is out of the bottle. It won't be shoved back in. But I have the sense that many (including many of the architects of Leave) really do wish it would all just go away. I believe there would have been more planning if anyone (of the campaigners on either side, I don't mean the public) had really thought (and actually wanted) Brexit to happen. But it's too late now.

However, I am open to other suggestions ...

S

Danny B Jun 27th 2016 3:46 pm

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11986656)
The British public is simply stupid.

Yep.

Brexit voters who say they now want to STAY in the EU after referendum results | Daily Mail Online

BristolUK Jun 27th 2016 3:59 pm

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Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 11987180)
Does anyone think that there really is a possibility that the UK would ignore the vote and just do nothing?

Just been reading about that. Summary.
  • Other countries that have referenda have a threshold that needs to be reached and/or all constituent parts have to agree. In last weeks referendum, neither requirement (had it applied, of course) would have been met.
  • MPs need to vote to repeal that act which took us in and since Scotland and London voted Remain, so should MPs representing London and Scotland.
  • There may be other reasons emerging by the time such a vote in Parliament happens. Perhaps it's the only way to keep Scotland from going its own way? A poll says over 1m people regret voting Leave.

What might happen if MPs voted against repealing the act?

Well, if it's true that 1m would have voted remain instead, then maybe there would be no revolt against the MPs.

Or, if there was to be any revolt against the MPs, their party could simply field an alternative candidate at an election.

If MPs from the three main parties all did it and the electorate wouldn't vote for them, just who would they vote for as an alternative?

You know how a new government comes into power and then says "Oh we can't do this after all because we were left a bigger mess than we thought"....it never "costs" them anything does it. So maybe "the vote was so close and with this that and the other happening since, circumstances are no longer those prevailing at the time, so we have reluctantly decided we cannot go ahead at this time."

Here's the article.

Snowy560 Jun 27th 2016 4:02 pm

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This (Mail online article) probably extends to Boris. I suspect he's a Bregretter as well ... (he said nothing much is going to change, remember).

S

Alan2005 Jun 27th 2016 4:03 pm

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Lol, the result is set. There won't be any weaseling out of it.

Snowy560 Jun 27th 2016 4:05 pm

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But there will be (and is) a lot of regret (and not just from the voting public).

S

Siouxie Jun 27th 2016 7:18 pm

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 11986147)
Another 3c gone overnight.

Pension now worth $72 a month less since Thursday and I'm not at payday yet:(

I lost $400 on my pay from the exchange rate today to what it was pre the referendum (I get paid in sterling) - I had no say in when it was transferred, sadly. Compared to 3 months ago, I lost $800. I'm just hoping it goes back up for my next pay!

Still, it could have been worse - it could have been down to 1.53 as it was a couple of years ago..

:(

magnumpi Jun 27th 2016 10:05 pm

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But Bristol, if the remains vote to stay by a gap of 1m then are we not in the same situation but with a remain vote?

Shard Jun 27th 2016 11:11 pm

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Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 11987498)
But Bristol, if the remains vote to stay by a gap of 1m then are we not in the same situation but with a remain vote?

Given the uncertainty and impact of coming out, the initial referendum should have had a 55% or 60% hurdle for Brexit. Voting OUT is a much more serious decision than accepting the status quo, because under the status quo a future out vote remains an option. Unfortunately the opposite (a future IN vote is not really possible).

BristolUK Jun 28th 2016 12:02 am

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Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 11987357)
Still, it could have been worse - it could have been down to 1.53 as it was a couple of years ago..

To be fair, though, that was a steady decline over a couple of years An overnight tumble is a bit different.

What's the opposite to tumble...if it could do a comparable reverse tumble :lol: overnight it wouldn't be so bad but it's more likely to be gradual...if we're lucky.


Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 11987498)
But Bristol, if the remains vote to stay by a gap of 1m then are we not in the same situation but with a remain vote?

Why? Do you not think it was the vote itself rather than the margin?

Not sure if it's this thread or another one but there was a currency graph for the £. In the period leading up to the vote, the £ had a steady fall. Uncertainty?

In the days immediately before the vote it was inching back up. At that point it was expected to be a Remain vote.

After the unexpected result it plummeted. Coincidence? Do you have a different explanation? Maybe related to Euro 2016 :lol:

I found the graph.

Souvy Jun 28th 2016 12:21 am

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Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 11987357)
I lost $400 on my pay from the exchange rate today to what it was pre the referendum (I get paid in sterling) - I had no say in when it was transferred, sadly. Compared to 3 months ago, I lost $800. I'm just hoping it goes back up for my next pay!

Still, it could have been worse - it could have been down to 1.53 as it was a couple of years ago..

:(

I'm with you there sister!

I'm in the same boat. My transfer goes through, probably, today. I think it will look unpleasant.

JamesM Jun 28th 2016 1:19 am

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Sums it up.

Good riddance:

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...in-sovereignty

Pizzawheel Jun 28th 2016 1:53 am

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Originally Posted by not2old (Post 11986738)
Post EU after the divorce, is that a 'the old style passport won't return', if so - what style 'post EU exit' do you see the British passport looking like?

Same I suppose with the 'drivers licence' without the EU circle of stars

I think it should have the union jack on it, whatever that looks like post union.


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