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British Expats (https://britishexpats.com/forum/)
-   The Maple Leaf (https://britishexpats.com/forum/maple-leaf-98/)
-   -   Great Britain's Future - post Brexit (https://britishexpats.com/forum/maple-leaf-98/great-britains-future-post-brexit-879379/)

Charismatic Jul 3rd 2016 9:45 pm
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
 
Originally Posted by Gordon Barlow (Post 11992525)
Yes indeed. It's always best to think long-term, people.
Mind you Gordon that graph is pretty sheer, could hit a historic high soon.

magnumpi Jul 3rd 2016 11:49 pm
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
 
Farage Ducks out of the Brexit mess

Nigel Farage, UKIP leader and top Leave campaigner, stepping down after Brexit victory - World - CBC News

holly_1948 Jul 4th 2016 12:11 am
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
 
Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 11993335)
The entire UKIP party becomes pointless, unneeded, once independence has been achieved.

Charismatic Jul 4th 2016 12:56 am
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
 
You could start a party campaigning on a remain/reentry vote.

UK4EU or similar.

Howefamily Jul 4th 2016 12:59 am
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
 
Originally Posted by holly_1948 (Post 11993351)
The entire UKIP party becomes pointless, unneeded, once independence has been achieved.
Its not quite achieved yet though is it.. right now its just a vote

BristolUK Jul 4th 2016 1:09 am
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
 
Originally Posted by holly_1948 (Post 11993351)
The entire UKIP party becomes pointless, unneeded, once independence has been achieved.
Putting aside the for and against issues, that's a bit like saying now that there are maternity rights, minimum wage rates etc that there is no need for trade unions which is patently nonsense.

If you really felt independence had been taken away wouldn't you want something in place to prevent it happening again?

Tirytory Jul 4th 2016 1:14 am
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
 
Originally Posted by Charismatic (Post 11993399)
You could start a party campaigning on a remain/reentry vote.

UK4EU or similar.
You forgot the heart;)

jimf Jul 4th 2016 3:22 am
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
 
A possible step in the right direction...

Angela Merkel 'to oust Jean-Claude Juncker' as Europe splits deepen over Brexit response

Shard Jul 4th 2016 9:52 am
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
 
Originally Posted by jimf (Post 11993554)
He does seem to be very antagonistic. It's a bit questionable that the entire direction of Britain and Europe can come down to the personal leanings of key individuals. For instance a Eurosceptic like Leadsom will take a very different approach and timing than a more moderate individual like May. Normal in electing a government, but not in deciding the fate of the region.

Novocastrian Jul 4th 2016 10:21 pm
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
 
Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11993873)
He does seem to be very antagonistic. It's a bit questionable that the entire direction of Britain and Europe can come down to the personal leanings of key individuals. For instance a Eurosceptic like Leadsom will take a very different approach and timing than a more moderate individual like May. Normal in electing a government, but not in deciding the fate of the region.
There are some words you never expect to see in a sentence.

Shard Jul 4th 2016 10:49 pm
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Yes, slightly ambiguous wording. I meant more moderate in respect of Brexit. She seems to be willing to backslide somewhat.

Charismatic Jul 4th 2016 11:05 pm
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
 
Originally Posted by Tirytory (Post 11993416)
You forgot the heart;)
You do the marketing and I'll swing a metric measure of beer around while uttering some "common sense" advice. Did you know for example there are a boat load of beautiful, blonde Swedish girls who are gagging to meet a British fellas because they admire their beer bellies? That's a little secret your pro-brexit government forgot to mention when you where about to leave.

Wait until I tell you all about the French wine that doesn't give you hangovers and German cars so cheap and safe children can drive themselves to school. For years the good stuff has been kept from you but we at UK4EU (or UK<3EU) will bring you all of this and free gelato for everybody.

thefishnets Jul 4th 2016 11:41 pm
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
 
Originally Posted by Snowy560 (Post 11991294)
Just because we live in Canada does that mean we shouldn't be concerned about what is happening in our country of citizenship? It's the only citizenship I have, I may have to go back to live there or my kids may choose to do so.

Personally, I identify as an EU citizen but it's clear that soon I won't be able to so. That makes me feel quite strange because it will be taken away from me, but I would also say that these feelings don't dilute my commitment to living in Canada. Issues of identity and belonging are not simple, black and white (to me it's not either British or English, or European or Canadian).

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You seem to suggest the common misconception that there are citizens of the UK. There aren't as they are all 'subjects' and since there is no written constitution or bill of rights they have all the rights of the serf granted in 1215 by King John in Magna Carta. The Cons government strenuously objected to a bill of rights/ constitution - maybe because politicians couldn't then do what they wanted.
Currently they are citizens of the EU though. One example of the difference is that occupational pensions are considered part of earned income (deferred salary) in the EU and belong to the worker but in the UK it is part of the company assets and belong to the owner - hence the problems with Tata Steel and others who can asset strip pension funds and make the Government, ie the taxpayers, take the liability.

Shard Jul 5th 2016 12:18 am
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
 
You forgot to mention that King John enjoyed a gold plated pension.

dbd33 Jul 5th 2016 12:20 am
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
 
Originally Posted by thefishnets (Post 11994246)
You seem to suggest the common misconception that there are citizens of the UK. There aren't as they are all 'subjects' and since there is no written constitution or bill of rights they have all the rights of the serf granted in 1215 by King John in Magna Carta. The Cons government strenuously objected to a bill of rights/ constitution - maybe because politicians couldn't then do what they wanted.
Currently they are citizens of the EU though. One example of the difference is that occupational pensions are considered part of earned income (deferred salary) in the EU and belong to the worker but in the UK it is part of the company assets and belong to the owner - hence the problems with Tata Steel and others who can asset strip pension funds and make the Government, ie the taxpayers, take the liability.
Stockings or trawling?


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