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Old Sep 2nd 2014 | 10:50 am
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Originally Posted by Alan2005

For fitness, HIIT is the thing to do. It is tough going whether you are bradley wiggins or eric pickles as it scales with your fitness level, but even just a few minutes a week is really good for your heart.
...well, so they say...until people start dropping dead from cardiac arrest.
 
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Originally Posted by bats
My comment re cheese was flippant as was Oinks. I wasn't looking for dietary advice but railing against those who criticise without understanding.

Being mean to fat people is the last refuge for discrimination.
You have good common sense, but are pretty touchy. The 'advice' was to put in perspective the criticism i.e that it's not so simple to lose weight.

But thanks anyway .
 
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
For weight loss, it is not so much about how hard you push, but that you can do it for a long time. People use that HR formula, but it is a load of bollocks and should be ignored. Weight training also helps, but it is too homoerotic for me.

For fitness, HIIT is the thing to do. It is tough going whether you are bradley wiggins or eric pickles as it scales with your fitness level, but even just a few minutes a week is really good for your heart.
Yeah, I could't be arsed 40 minute is good for cardio though, I hear.
 
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Originally Posted by Oink
Open every day although I'm not sure what time the boats are at the dock. You might want to get some hot and/or cold smoked and packed. Sockeye is brilliant smoked.

Its going to be nice weather so you might want to make a morning or afternoon of it.
Brilliant, thanks, Oink
 
Old Sep 2nd 2014 | 11:10 am
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Originally Posted by Shard
...well, so they say...until people start dropping dead from cardiac arrest.
There was an horizon on this, but here you go.

BBC News - Can three minutes of exercise a week help make you fit?

Some people don't get the fitness benefit, so will have to train normally. However, even the Dr who is in the 20% of people who don't had a improved response to insulin. And that's from what many would say was hardly any exercise over four weeks.
 
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
There was an horizon on this, but here you go.

BBC News - Can three minutes of exercise a week help make you fit?

Some people don't get the fitness benefit, so will have to train normally. However, even the Dr who is in the 20% of people who don't had a improved response to insulin. And that's from what many would say was hardly any exercise over four weeks.
I saw that Horizon and quite like Dr MM. Nevertheless, I have doubts about high intensity training for all but the fittest people (Wiggins, ok; Pickles, don't risk it!). It just wouldn't surprise me if in, say, five years time the advice changes to be wary of HIIT.
 
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
There was an horizon on this, but here you go.

BBC News - Can three minutes of exercise a week help make you fit?

Some people don't get the fitness benefit, so will have to train normally. However, even the Dr who is in the 20% of people who don't had a improved response to insulin. And that's from what many would say was hardly any exercise over four weeks.
The same program also showed that walking, those who keep active constantly, 10,000 steps was great long term exercise. I seem to recall you dismissed that quite early on in the thread.

It might be better for cardiac health but only pinpoints one area of fitness and not the different heart rate needed for weight loss. Actually I think Shard was spot on though, I read about someone dropping dead doing HIT.
 
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You have good common sense, but are pretty touchy. The 'advice' was to put in perspective the criticism i.e that it's not so simple to lose weight.

But thanks anyway .
You're welcome.
 
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The same program also showed that walking, those who keep active constantly, 10,000 steps was great long term exercise. I seem to recall you dismissed that quite early on in the thread.

It might be better for cardiac health but only pinpoints one area of fitness and not the different heart rate needed for weight loss. Actually I think Shard was spot on though, I read about someone dropping dead doing HIT.
Walking won't make you fit.

People drop dead doing any kind of exercise, maybe nobody should bother.
 
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Walking won't make you fit.

People drop dead doing any kind of exercise, maybe nobody should bother.
So you're quite prepared to believe one part of the programme and not the other. Interesting...
 
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So you're quite prepared to believe one part of the programme and not the other. Interesting...
Walking has lots of benefits, but cardio vascular fitness is not one of them unless you are so unfit that any movement is tiring.

Anyway, go look at your post, you did exactly what you are accusing me of.
 
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You're welcome.
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Old Sep 2nd 2014 | 2:28 pm
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
Walking won't make you fit.

People drop dead doing any kind of exercise, maybe nobody should bother.
Mmm I think walking is a good form of exercise. Also we have to consider the pace of walking. Of course meandering along eating an ice-cream is probably not the ideal scenario (or on second thoughts... )
 
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I'm fat @225; could stand to lose 40 lb or more and I think it's from drinking as much as eating.. (they make it out of sugar for crissake). I'm still really strong and mean so nobody gives me any stick about it though.
6 operations in just over 4 years and all that inactive time and I just lost control of it. I used to lose 10 or 15 lbs every year walking up and down hill in deer season but arthritis finished that.

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Athritis is difficult, I get pains ..it's a tough part of aging for me
 


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