I see it the other way...



If the Ignaffifist types get another shot...

Luckily there is..



of that happening....So as Precious (of Come Fly With Me fame) would say...

Perhaps you should move to Alberta. You would be amongst your own. The right-wing lunatics.

This is just rubbish generated by the Conservatives. It simply does not stand up to even a cursory review of the last 20 years of Canadian politics.

The previous Conservative government (albeit a PC and not a Reform one) ran massive deficits and ran up a massive debt. They left the country in a financial crisis. It was the Liberals who cut the spending and put the national finances back together. In the end they were being criticized for running too many surpluses and paying down the national debt, rather than spending on social programs.

Why do you think the British press were so keen to get Paul Martin's views on the actions the UK ConDem coalition were taking to try and dig Britain out of its debt hole?

Can you provide a source to support your "beliefs"? I didn't realise Canada had any colonies. In the UK labour didn't support same sex marriage and they put funding into schools with a religious "purpose" so I hardly think they qualify as policies of the far right.

Agreed, that is all true. However it doesn't appear to be the platform the Iggy is toting.

Lol, and I'm sure the opposite can be said for you.

The question to you was, "do you support the positions as described" are you, for example, opposed to gay marriage? Not, are the Harperists opposed, we know that.

I think you need to read up a tad on Trudeau's liberal deposits....may I suggest:

"Various Articles on Trudeau's Destructive Legacy - October 8, 2000

$576 billion national debt is Trudeau's real legacy By ERIC MARGOLIS" (first article following link below)

http://www.tpg1.com/protest/federal/..._articles.html

"Your great grandchildren will still be paying for Pierre Trudeau's "just and compassionate society."

Yep.....

The problem is in politics the center line shifts around over time doesnt it?

Maybe for long term residents or those of us in Ontario the current government seems fairly far right of our normal center. Canada for us has a largely liberal history, and whats normal, what we would base the center on, is largely the result of various liberal governments over the years. To us the NDP are the left, and the conservatives the right.

For anyone looking at it over the last 5 years or so or from the more conservative Western perspective the current conservative minority perhaps appears to be far closer to the normal central position, and everyone else appears to be leftist. Im not sure however who they would consider to be on the right...

Its all relative I guess.

Sorry, missread what you said. However I think it's a liberal assumption that all Conservatives are opposed to gay marriage etc, and I suspect it's an assumption that has been used in this case.

Please, dont take this the wrong way, but that article is from 11 years ago, and never mind my great grandchildren, that defect was in fact paid down before my kids were born... under a liberal government. Now its piling up again.

Very true. There is no-one on the right any more, it's all been pc'd out of us.

The CBC of course is an old organisation, centered in Toronto...

It's more than an assumption in Harper's case (yes, citations to follow). My questions though were about you, if those are positions you support then perhaps Harper would seem almost moderate to you.

Not at all.

I'm quite happy with defining centrist as being near the political median. Which as Iain pointed out, shifts a bit over the years.

I would even go so far as to say that the present day Conservatives have occupied a centre right position since they've been in minority control.

I think though that large numbers of voter who also occupy somewhere around there are leery of precipitating a con majority because they believe (as I do) that the centre right would be immediately abandoned by the Harperists under those circumstances.

A majority Harper government would act anathematically to the basic ideas of our democracy and I don't want to see it happen.