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Old Apr 4th 2011 | 8:16 am
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Originally Posted by Novocastrian
Well while you're consulting your dictionary, I'll add this (in a less strident tone).

Has there ever been a Cabinet consisting of a comparably useless collection of no hope morons as the last one?

Hint: The answer has only two letters.
Couldn't the same question be asked of any previous administration?

Rona Ambrose has big hair. John Baird is very shouty. That Mckay fella seems nice enough though.
 
Old Apr 4th 2011 | 8:18 am
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Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat
Couldn't the same question be asked of any previous administration?

Rona Ambrose has big hair. John Baird is very shouty. That Mckay fella seems nice enough though.
Of course the question could be asked. It's just that the answer would be different.
 
Old Apr 4th 2011 | 8:21 am
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Originally Posted by Novocastrian
Has there ever been a Cabinet consisting of a comparably useless collection of no hope morons as the last one?
 
Old Apr 4th 2011 | 8:22 am
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Originally Posted by JonboyE
In the interests of preserving BE.com's legal position let us just say that he was very forgetful. Like he forgot to tell the CRA about the hundreds of thousand dollars of cash he was given by foreign businessmen in return for absolutely no favours whatsoever.



More.
No arguments from this side of the divide.....followed by similar ilk....Chretin and his gang....and the not to be forgotten sponsorship scandal for one, and then there was Chretin's own Shawinigate...

And like the Mulroney affair...with the subsequent inquiries factored in - have cost us all a pretty penny.

Back to the Libs...

"Liberal Boondoggles and Scandals"

Brought to us from the folks at LUFA - who until two mins ago I had never heard of Enjoy...

http://www.lufa.ca/boondoggles.asp
 
Old Apr 4th 2011 | 8:27 am
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LUFA... clearly no axe to grind at that independent "friends dont let friends vote liberal" website.

A bit of a worry that they seem to think Dion is leading the conservatives, but never mind eh

Not to mention that as the law says you have to register long guns, you cant logically be both law abiding and have unregistered weapons.

Plus complaining that the registry costs too much money, but then adding to the cost be registering phantom weapons seems a little illogical too, but maybe thats just me.

I dont think anyone is denying there have been boondoggles, but that applies just as well to both sides of the political divide.

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Old Apr 4th 2011 | 8:35 am
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I rather liked Condi Rice
 
Old Apr 4th 2011 | 8:36 am
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Originally Posted by iaink
LUFA... clearly no axe to grind at that independent "friends dont let friends vote liberal" website.

A bit of a worry that they seem to think Dion is leading the conservatives, but never mind eh

Not to mention that as the law says you have to register long guns, you cant logically be both law abiding and have unregistered weapons.

Dion?...nope?

Was he/she one of them quintuplets?
 
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Very good. I should have qualified by mentioning Canada.

But your contribution entirely misses the point.

Bush was in fact President but was largely manipulated by his cabinet and vice-president.

Harper was a Prime Minister, but prevented his useless Cabinet from having any input or even speaking aloud without PMO clearance.

He just thinks he's a President.
 
Old Apr 4th 2011 | 8:39 am
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He just thinks he's a President.
President Harper... it does have a rather nice ring to it
 
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In defense of our newest frothing loon you have to wonder if Harper has had some sort of epiphany since his days as the leader of reform.

Some of Reform's ideas:

* a strong pro-life stance on the issue of abortion rights, calling for abortion to be made illegal.

* opposed extending rights to gays and lesbians such as the right to marriage. "Homosexuality is destructive to the individual, and in the long run, society"

* opposed "any immigration based on race or creed or designed to radically or suddenly alter the ethnic makeup of Canada"

* Quebec secession should not be sought to be avoided at all cost

* Canada's government-funded universal health insurance system be replaced

Reform MP Bob Ringma stated in a newspaper interview that store owners should be free to move gays and "ethnics" "to the back of the shop", or even to fire them ...

Then there is this:

Long-time Progressive Conservative member and political commentator Dalton Camp observed the 1994 Reform Party convention in Ottawa and was personally disgusted with what he heard, saying: "The speechifying gives off acrid whiffs of xenophobia, homophobia, and paranoia—like an exhaust—in which it seems clear both orator and audience have been seized by some private terror: immigrants, lesbians, people out of work or from out of town and criminals.

There is genuine reason for concern. And I don't think it is any secret that, if Harper is not a megalomaniac, he is certainly the most controlling PM the country has had.

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Old Apr 4th 2011 | 8:43 am
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Originally Posted by airbornesapper
Was he/she one of them quintuplets?
Sadly not. he would have had more of a chance. For those who forget (or supress the memory) he was the leader of the liberals at the last election... championed the idea of a carbon tax. Not a bad idea, but far too forward thinking and there was no way on earth it would ever fly in Canada.


Somewhat lacking in charisma too I guess. Not that that seems to matter in canadian politics.
 
Old Apr 4th 2011 | 8:44 am
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In defense of our newest frothing loon you have to wonder if Harper has had some sort of epiphany since his days as the leader of reform.
I think the epiphany came in the form of opinion polls... Often does with politicians.
 
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Originally Posted by JonboyE
In defense of our newest frothing loon you have to wonder if Harper has had some sort of epiphany since his days as the leader of reform.

Some of Reform's ideas:

* a strong pro-life stance on the issue of abortion rights, calling for abortion to be made illegal.

* opposed extending rights to gays and lesbians such as the right to marriage. "Homosexuality is destructive to the individual, and in the long run, society"

* opposed "any immigration based on race or creed or designed to radically or suddenly alter the ethnic makeup of Canada"

* Quebec secession should not be sought to be avoided at all cost

* Canada's government-funded universal health insurance system be replaced

Reform MP Bob Ringma stated in a newspaper interview that store owners should be free to move gays and "ethnics" "to the back of the shop", or even to fire them ...

Then there is this:

Long-time Progressive Conservative member and political commentator Dalton Camp observed the 1994 Reform Party convention in Ottawa and was personally disgusted with what he heard, saying: "The speechifying gives off acrid whiffs of xenophobia, homophobia, and paranoia—like an exhaust—in which it seems clear both orator and audience have been seized by some private terror: immigrants, lesbians, people out of work or from out of town and criminals.

There is genuine reason for concern. And I don't think it is any secret that, if Harper is not a megalomaniac, he is certainly the most controlling PM the country has had.
Rather like Obama, since being in office he's actually had to face reality and make the tough decisions which don't neccessarily agree with his philosophy.
 
Old Apr 4th 2011 | 8:47 am
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Ah, Dalton Camp! Is he still alive? (I could google).

Fond memories of the Time Before Harper F***** Canada.
 
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Originally Posted by iaink
Somewhat lacking in charisma too I guess. Not that that seems to matter in canadian politics.
It was impressive of the LPC to find a leader less charismatic than Mr Harper.
 


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