Coronavirus
#3557
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Re: Coronavirus
Parkside Extendicare in Regina turned into a hell-hole and there was nothing the familes of the residents could do. After seeing what happened early on in Quebec and Ontario maybe the management had time to bolster their staffing or improve conditions, and maybe not. There will probably be an inquiry at some point.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saska...d-19-1.5840770
My best friend's mother died in there an hour and a half ago and of course he couldn't be there. I'd known her for almost 50 years and she was the sweetest, kindest woman you're ever likely to meet. She just tested positive less than 2 weeks ago.
The father of a co-worker was in there until about 3 months ago, when she was able to get him a space in a nursing home out of town. I think she saved his life.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saska...d-19-1.5840770
My best friend's mother died in there an hour and a half ago and of course he couldn't be there. I'd known her for almost 50 years and she was the sweetest, kindest woman you're ever likely to meet. She just tested positive less than 2 weeks ago.
The father of a co-worker was in there until about 3 months ago, when she was able to get him a space in a nursing home out of town. I think she saved his life.
One of the care homes in Hamilton has been hit so hard that they have made the decision to 'hand it over' to Hamilton Health Sciences and draft in nurses and doctors.. it's a disaster.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamil...-hhs-1.5843815
#3558
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Location: SW Ontario
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Re: Coronavirus
The whole of Ontario is going into Lockdown for a minimum of 28 days starting at 12:01am on Boxing Day - north of Sydbury, a little earlier.
https://news.ontario.ca/en/release/5...and-save-lives
https://news.ontario.ca/en/release/5...and-save-lives
The lockdown will begin at 12:01 a.m. on Dec. 26 and remain in place until at least Jan. 23, 2021 in the 27 public health units that comprise southern Ontario, the government says.
In Ontario's north, where daily case numbers have been significantly lower, the lockdown is set to expire on Jan. 9, 2021.
In Ontario's north, where daily case numbers have been significantly lower, the lockdown is set to expire on Jan. 9, 2021.
#3559
Re: Coronavirus
The whole of Ontario is going into Lockdown for a minimum of 28 days starting at 12:01am on Boxing Day - north of Sydbury, a little earlier.
https://news.ontario.ca/en/release/5...and-save-lives
https://news.ontario.ca/en/release/5...and-save-lives
#3560
Re: Coronavirus
The whole of Ontario is going into Lockdown for a minimum of 28 days starting at 12:01am on Boxing Day - north of Sydbury, a little earlier.
https://news.ontario.ca/en/release/5...and-save-lives
https://news.ontario.ca/en/release/5...and-save-lives
Here it is.
Ontario to implement provincewide lockdown on Christmas Eve, sources say
The Ontario government is poised to impose a provincewide lockdown starting Christmas Eve, sources confirmed Sunday, as the province logged more than 2,000 new cases of COVID-19 for the sixth consecutive day.
#3561
Re: Coronavirus
If mask wearing and distancing merely reduces the chances of infection, rather than guarantees it - even ignoring where people are not doing it as they should - and because there are occasions where 6'/2m isn't enough, then for a version of it that is up to 70% more transmissible, masks are going to be a bit less effective and 6'/2m less likely to be as safe a distance than for the original version.
I think a temporary UK travel ban is the right thing to do until new information becomes available. Right now, I feel as though we are reliving post #1 of this thread.
#3562
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Re: Coronavirus
I'm not a scaremonger, nor am I an epidemiologist, but if it spreads to more people, more easily, it will increase total mortality as more people will become infected. If it increases viral load, you are more likely to get ill with it if you encounter someone shedding it.
I think a temporary UK travel ban is the right thing to do until new information becomes available. Right now, I feel as though we are reliving post #1 of this thread.
I think a temporary UK travel ban is the right thing to do until new information becomes available. Right now, I feel as though we are reliving post #1 of this thread.
Last edited by Siouxie; Dec 21st 2020 at 8:14 pm.
#3563
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Re: Coronavirus
We need COVID and it's variants to be more like its 4 cousins below, who cause mild symptoms in humans. Apparently only 7 Corona Viruses known to infect humans, 4 of the 7 are pretty harmless just causing mild symptoms, the other 3 being the ones that cause MERS, SARS and COVID-19.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/types.html
There is a virus expert in Washington State that was mentioned in an article a couple days ago, the new variants are changing the protein that both vaccines and antibody treatments are effective against, he didn't say the current vaccine wont work, but that the virus may eventually mutate in that direction, and boosters will be needed, how often only time will tell there.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/types.html
- 229E (alpha coronavirus)
- NL63 (alpha coronavirus)
- OC43 (beta coronavirus)
- HKU1 (beta coronavirus)
There is a virus expert in Washington State that was mentioned in an article a couple days ago, the new variants are changing the protein that both vaccines and antibody treatments are effective against, he didn't say the current vaccine wont work, but that the virus may eventually mutate in that direction, and boosters will be needed, how often only time will tell there.
#3564
Re: Coronavirus
I'm not a scaremonger, nor am I an epidemiologist, but if it spreads to more people, more easily, it will increase total mortality as more people will become infected. If it increases viral load, you are more likely to get ill with it if you encounter someone shedding it.
I think a temporary UK travel ban is the right thing to do until new information becomes available. Right now, I feel as though we are reliving post #1 of this thread.
I think a temporary UK travel ban is the right thing to do until new information becomes available. Right now, I feel as though we are reliving post #1 of this thread.
Original covid might infect 100 people in a week, of which 2 die.
Mutated covid might infect 200 people in a week of whom 3 die.
Original covid has a death rate of 2/100 and the mutated version while infecting more people, more quickly, has a lower death rate of 1.5/100 but the total of people dying has not only increased but increased faster.
#3565
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Re: Coronavirus
Some improvement this past weekend over the weekend before. This past weekend saw a 23 per cent decrease in cases compared to the week prior, still had 1,667 new cases though over 3 days, and 41 deaths.
Hospitalizations down slightly, 341 people in hospital, with 80 patients in critical care. Number of active cases have decreased for the first time since the 2nd wave started.
According to the PHO "while B.C.'s curve is currently "levelling," it's at too high a plateau, with significant growth of new cases in the Interior and the north of B.C."
As of Friday 3,644 health care workers in the Lower Mainland have received a vaccine, and as of Monday all health authorities now have some vaccines to begin giving to healthcare workers.
They have not found any signs of the UK strain in BC yet.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...rmed-1.5850767
Hospitalizations down slightly, 341 people in hospital, with 80 patients in critical care. Number of active cases have decreased for the first time since the 2nd wave started.
According to the PHO "while B.C.'s curve is currently "levelling," it's at too high a plateau, with significant growth of new cases in the Interior and the north of B.C."
As of Friday 3,644 health care workers in the Lower Mainland have received a vaccine, and as of Monday all health authorities now have some vaccines to begin giving to healthcare workers.
They have not found any signs of the UK strain in BC yet.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...rmed-1.5850767
#3566
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Re: Coronavirus
For me, strict lock down in the UK, stay at home orders and completely postponing Christmas is the right thing to do - whilst I certainly have my doubts about the news of the strain being rolled out to explain away incompetence - regardless of whether it is a new strain or just out of control spread of already existing strains that have been spreading for months. We are potentially at a point where of the 5% that are highest risk, we could have a lot of them vaccinated in the coming few weeks (possibly quicker, as I would hope we respect the decisions of any terminally ill person who goes "I've only got 3-6 months, I've made my peace, pass my dose down the line" and would also think those that are very close to end of life, may not get offered it.
Suddenly we are halving mortality rates - which makes the whole thing a lot better
Suddenly we are halving mortality rates - which makes the whole thing a lot better
#3567
Re: Coronavirus
Now South Africa are saying they have a new strain that is more contagious but NOT the same strain as in UK.
https://abcnews.go.com/International...gence-74838566
https://abcnews.go.com/International...gence-74838566
#3569
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Re: Coronavirus
A little good news in BC, we had the lowest single day case count since Nov 5th, but its a little concerning Interior Health and Vancouver Coastal Health had 78 and 79 cases. Vancouver Coastal Health covers 1.25 million people vs Interior Health with only 801,000.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...onth-1.5851806
4,108 people have received the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine in B.C. as of today.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...onth-1.5851806
4,108 people have received the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine in B.C. as of today.
#3570
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Re: Coronavirus
Travel ban Canada put in place for the UK has been extended until January 6th, subject to being extended again of course.
https://globalnews.ca/news/7539542/c...da-travel-ban/
https://globalnews.ca/news/7539542/c...da-travel-ban/