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BristolUK Oct 26th 2020 11:30 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12926568)
Testing access can vary in Canada province to province, currently in BC only those with symptoms are tested.

My SD got tested twice with one symptom each time.

On the weekend just gone, an area in the north of the province carried out a mass testing, no symptoms required (anyone with symptoms was encouraged to stay away) and they tested about 2500 in that one off exercise. Saturday results were all negative.

Jsmth321 Oct 26th 2020 11:51 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
817 new cases in BC over the last 3 days.

New rules around gatherings in homes restricted to immediate household members and six additional people. Although depending on size of the dwelling 6 additional people may still be too many.


Increase in cases being linked to increased gatherings during Thanksgiving holiday.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...t-26-1.5743802









Pulaski Oct 27th 2020 1:34 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12926671)
817 new cases in BC over the last 3 days.

New rules around gatherings in homes restricted to immediate household members and six additional people. Although depending on size of the dwelling 6 additional people may still be too many. .....

Pretty much all western countries seem to want to issue rules that cause confusion. Inviting people into your home represents a risk of catching and spreading the disease, and therefore should be avoided. The purpose of limiting the numbers to six non-family members is to slow the spread of the disease, not stop it. So long as people are misled into thinking that "six guests is safe" the pandemic will continue to escalate.

Unfortunately I suspect that for every family who is following isolation/ self lock-down rules there appear to be several families who are ignoring/ flouting the rules.

Danny B Oct 27th 2020 2:20 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12926671)
817 new cases in BC over the last 3 days.

Fraser Valley ruining it for the rest of the province.

Jsmth321 Oct 27th 2020 2:57 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12926693)
Fraser Valley ruining it for the rest of the province.

Looks like the Fraser Health issue is large gatherings like weddings causing the surge.

Might be time to make restrictions region specific and limit non-essential travel considering they have a fair amount more cases than anywhere else in the province.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...urge-1.5773420

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...1bbbc1c641.png

Danny B Oct 27th 2020 3:40 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12926704)
Looks like the Fraser Health issue is large gatherings like weddings causing the surge.

Might be time to make restrictions region specific and limit non-essential travel considering they have a fair amount more cases than anywhere else in the province.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...urge-1.5773420

There are a lot of cultures in that neck of the woods with Sons living at home with their parents well into their 30s, and some even after marriage, they live with their parents and spouse as a “joint family". I'm sure that this is a contributing factor to the high number of COVID cases for that specific health region.
It's exactly the same scenario in the UK for those areas.

My in-laws in Manila are all crammed into a tiny house where there are not enough beds, it's pretty common all over Asia to have 'joint families' in one house. Nothing wrong with it, but during COVID it is not ideal.

Danny B Oct 28th 2020 10:16 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
France and Germany have announced second national lockdowns to try to curb a surge in coronavirus cases and deaths.The month-long measures will include:
  • A 'stay at home' order except to exercise for one hour a day, seek medical care or buy essential goods
  • Shutting restaurants and bars
  • Non-essential shops to close
  • A travel ban between regions
  • Closing some external borders
  • Universities moving to online teaching
Anyone outside their homes will have to carry a document justifying their excursion, which can be checked by police.

Schools will remain open.

Jsmth321 Oct 28th 2020 11:47 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Fraser Health want's people to restrict their gatherings to mostly just those who reside in the same dwelling.

"Dr. Elizabeth Brodkin, the Fraser Health Authority's interim chief medical health officer, says she wants people to start limiting home gatherings to only those who live there, excepting the occasional family visitor."

Fraser Health accounted for 81% of cases over the weekend. Fraser Health is the largest health authority in the province serving 40% of the population.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...ules-1.5779383



Danny your thought was correct, Fraser Health has the highest density of multi-generational housing with many people living in close proximity.

"Brodkin says the region seems to be a hot spot for COVID-19 because it has the highest density of multi-generational people living in close proximity to each other, making it easier for the virus to circulate."


At the hospital yesterday, I am still surprised how many people go there without wearing a mask, they seem to only be suggesting wearing a mask.

I wore one up until the time I had to take it off for the procedure, but most people in the waiting area did not have a mask on, and half the people in line to enter the main entrance did not have a mask on. Most staff however did have masks on but some were letting their nose peek out.

They do "screen" everyone by asking some questions on entry, they asked if you have a fever, cough, sore throat, if you travelled outside of Canada in the past 14 days, if you have been around anyone who confirmed positive, and if you have been told to self isolate, then they drop about a dime size drop of hand sanitizer on your hand, not enough to actually do anything really.

Obviously impossible to social distance as a patient who needs an IV and certain procedures.


printer Oct 28th 2020 11:57 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12927384)
France and Germany have announced second national lockdowns to try to curb a surge in coronavirus cases and deaths.The month-long measures will include:
  • A 'stay at home' order except to exercise for one hour a day, seek medical care or buy essential goods
  • Shutting restaurants and bars
  • Non-essential shops to close
  • A travel ban between regions
  • Closing some external borders
  • Universities moving to online teaching
Anyone outside their homes will have to carry a document justifying their excursion, which can be checked by police.

Schools will remain open.

Which begs the question, what about masks? We keep on hearing all the plus points about how they protect others and many many places mandating their use and fines issued for non compliance and France, Spain and even Italy i believe have mask mandates for some outdoor areas too. BC in fact probably remains one of the few who haven't as yet actually mandated it. If wearing one is so effective something somewhere is not right because the countries you mention above and UK too have all had rules in place for weeks now yet still we see huge rises and now more severe restrictions to curb spread. Maybe its my simple brain but i just don't see the figures i would expect after mass mask mandates have been in use and for some time too.

BristolUK Oct 29th 2020 12:08 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12927415)
At the hospital yesterday, I am still surprised how many people go there without wearing a mask, they seem to only be suggesting wearing a mask.
They do "screen" everyone by asking some questions on entry, they asked if you have a fever, cough, sore throat, if you travelled outside of Canada in the past 14 days, if you have been around anyone who confirmed positive, and if you have been told to self isolate....

Really? It became mandatory only a couple of weeks ago here but the hospital has insisted on masks since at least July.

Jsmth321 Oct 29th 2020 12:40 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12927426)
Really? It became mandatory only a couple of weeks ago here but the hospital has insisted on masks since at least July.

They request a mask be worn, but not requiring a mask to be worn. No government mandate for masks here, most retail stores do require one though, but not all do, and even those that do require one are not generally enforcing it.

I have a hunch BC may hit 300 cases per day soon.

One positive is hospitalizations don't seem to be climbing rapidly.

Fraser Health has most new cases- 189
Vancouver Coastal Health- 69
Interior Health- 10
Northern Health- 16
Vancouver Island Health- 3

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...enry-1.5780326

https://experience.arcgis.com/experi...9e3cda29297ded



Jsmth321 Oct 29th 2020 5:54 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Why am I not surprised this is happening in Chilliwack.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...ules-1.5779895

A children's soccer club in Chilliwack, B.C., has hired a private security firm to supervise its games after it said family members unhappy with contact tracing and limited crowd sizes began lashing out at staff on the sidelines..

Siouxie Oct 29th 2020 6:09 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by printer (Post 12927421)
Which begs the question, what about masks? We keep on hearing all the plus points about how they protect others and many many places mandating their use and fines issued for non compliance and France, Spain and even Italy i believe have mask mandates for some outdoor areas too. BC in fact probably remains one of the few who haven't as yet actually mandated it. If wearing one is so effective something somewhere is not right because the countries you mention above and UK too have all had rules in place for weeks now yet still we see huge rises and now more severe restrictions to curb spread. Maybe its my simple brain but i just don't see the figures i would expect after mass mask mandates have been in use and for some time too.

The numbers are probably increasing because of all the idiots who won't wear a mask, won't social distance, think they are immune - or think that it's a fake virus! . :)

Jsmth321 Oct 29th 2020 11:57 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
234 new cases, 1 death in BC.

Death was an 80 year old women who attended a small birthday party in Fraser Health where a majority of those present at the birthday party tested positive for the virus.

Looks like Surrey is responsible for the bulk of the surging cases.

"Henry said from Surrey, part of the Fraser Health region where cases are surging more than anywhere else in the province."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...r-29-1.5782369
4588 (+43) cases in the Vancouver Coastal Health region

8036 (+173) cases in the Fraser Health region

734 (+7) cases in the Interior Health region

256 (+3) cases in the Island Health region

406 (+7) cases in the Northern Health region

89 (+1) cases of people who reside outside of Canada

printer Oct 30th 2020 12:03 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12927473)
The numbers are probably increasing because of all the idiots who won't wear a mask, won't social distance, think they are immune - or think that it's a fake virus! . :)

Really? I somehow doubt it, have you looked at the numbers in France? Around 1000 cases early August rising consistently until now and record numbers this month, up to 50,000 cases a day!!!! Now they are making young school aged children (6 years) wear them in school which they didn't have to before this week. Like that is going to solve the problem. You say idiots that won't wear one but it has been law since way back so whilst there will always be some who want to "stand their ground" i'm sure that most have had to follow regulations.


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