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dave_j Feb 27th 2020 4:27 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12812689)
The BBC reports today that a Japanese tour guide in Osaka was confirmed to have the virus in late January, and was discharged from hospital in February after recovering and testing negative. Some time later she developed a sore throat and chest pains and then tested positive again. The information was released by the Japanese government.

Interesting isn't it.
You have to query the ability of the body to protect itself, whether there's more than one strain present or simply just how accurate the test is (always assuming the samples weren't mixed up).
My guess is that the test at the moment isn't 100% accurate.
https://www.medicinenet.com/script/m...iclekey=228250


Danny B Feb 27th 2020 5:04 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Jesus, Italy suddenly went up to 4th place.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...us-has-spread/

spouse of scouse Feb 27th 2020 5:20 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by dave_j (Post 12812901)
Interesting isn't it.
You have to query the ability of the body to protect itself, whether there's more than one strain present or simply just how accurate the test is (always assuming the samples weren't mixed up).
My guess is that the test at the moment isn't 100% accurate.
https://www.medicinenet.com/script/m...iclekey=228250

You could be right there Dave. Lots of unknowns about it at the moment.

tumbleweedly Feb 28th 2020 8:07 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Grim news from the BBC last night:Councils are being asked about their plans to deal with pressures on public services if deaths from coronavirus are severe, including where they might locate new - perhaps mass - burial sites.

spouse of scouse Feb 28th 2020 10:47 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by tumbleweedly (Post 12813205)
Grim news from the BBC last night:Councils are being asked about their plans to deal with pressures on public services if deaths from coronavirus are severe, including where they might locate new - perhaps mass - burial sites.

This type of contingency planning's been done before though, I think it was last done in the UK in 2009 for the SARS outbreak.

tumbleweedly Feb 28th 2020 4:42 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12813236)
This type of contingency planning's been done before though, I think it was last done in the UK in 2009 for the SARS outbreak.

Thanks for the info. I had no idea things like this would be planned for except in wars or nuclear fallout.

Siouxie Feb 28th 2020 5:09 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
ChinaXiv.org 中国科学院科技论文预发布平台

interesting

SARS-CoV-2 seems to possess enhanced infectivity and subtle different clinical features, which may hamper the early screening of suspected patients as well as the control of virus transmission.
We further confirm a putative furin-cleavage site reported recently in the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2, which may facilitate the virus-cell fusion. Based on these findings, we develop a novel approach that comprehensively analyzed the virus receptor expression, ACE2 shedding, membrane fusion activity, virus uptake and virus replication to evaluate the infectivity of SARS-CoV-2 to different human organs. Our results indicate that, in addition to airway epithelia, cardiac tissue and enteric canals are susceptible to SARS-CoV-2 as well.

Jsmth321 Feb 28th 2020 6:06 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
British Man on the cruise ship in Japan has died.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51677846

If it becomes widespread in Canada no way hospitals here can handle it, Hospitals in a bad flu season can barely handle the uptake in patients.


US CDC revised its guidelines for testing, they had previously had strict testing guidelines and after the woman in California fell ill it took persistent doctors before CDC would test because she had no travel history or contact with anyone who had travel to China, and believed to be the first in US to get it without having gone anywhere known to be affected.

Also seems like a huge coincidence the area this woman lived is the same where they are quarantine some of the American's from China but she had no contact or travel, so seems that its possible workers on the base got infected, didn't know and took the virus off the base?





DaveLovesDee Feb 28th 2020 6:24 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Jsmth321 Feb 29th 2020 1:12 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Something of a concern is if you ended up in self isolation and miss work and have no income coming in. Could cause issues for people.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6596383/c...8y_8jfViyx0Bx8




dave_j Feb 29th 2020 2:25 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
This virus outbreak will generate any number of inconvenient issues.
You have only to track the downward progress of the TSX or the DOW this week to realise that greater minds than ours are anticipating events.

Here's a fantasy to contemplate.

If you remember the 2008 financial crisis, it was created by the banks selling property to people who were patently unable to repay the loans and then repackaging and reselling them to the extent that nobody knew who owned what.
Imagine that a sizeable proportion of the population become ill, take time off, or simply stop spending and staying at home.
Companies run into liquidity problems, they lay off or sack workers, who then default on debts.
Imagine those in the US who get ill will purposely stay away from the health sector simply because they can't afford it, but need to work to pay bills. Who's to prevent contamination of the population at large?
Imagine a sizable number in the US become sick, are hospitalised and made bankrupt as a result, who owns their debts.
Imagine schools closing for a period, who'll look after the kids when you need to earn money to pay the bills?
Imagine you have this and a government run by an egotistical maniacal idiot and it's easy to understand market fears.
I strongly suspect that life could become very inconvenient, especially for those with debts.
Imagine the reaction drives economies into recession, house prices fall, nobody buys, owners default... we've been here before.
And.. What happens when society becomes stressed?
Those in charge assume strict population controls to protect society as a whole.
This elephant just south of the border better get it's act together quickly.
China's been able to do things unacceptable elsewhere.. but it could happen here.



Jsmth321 Feb 29th 2020 2:53 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Companies in the US are starting to cancel & reduce employee travel, and cancelling conferences so things like that will hit airlines and hotels, I don't expect great quarter 1 results this year, but we wont know until mid-late April since we have another month in the first quarter to go.

California appears to have its 2nd case of community spread, an older female in Santa Clara County who had not traveled anywhere or any known contact with someone known to have come into contact with the virus, so it does appear its spreading in California via the community although slow at the moment.

8,400 people in California being monitored for the virus, but the state only has 200 test kits at the moment, but are supposed to receive more.

Health officials in Santa Clara County where the 2nd community transmission case is, told local schools to prepare for students calling in sick, and explore options for tele-learning and enhance surface cleaning.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/28/coro...wn-origin.html



spouse of scouse Feb 29th 2020 3:01 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee (Post 12813418)

Please tell me that's satire, I can't bear to think it's actually true!

Jsmth321 Feb 29th 2020 4:49 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Possibly good in regards to treating pneumonia caused by this virus?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/32074550/

That medication is also effective at killing certain marine parasites that affect marine aquarium fish, although difficult to obtain its one of the better treatment options for fish as its not as harsh as copper or formalin treatments.




spouse of scouse Feb 29th 2020 5:47 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Waiting my turn at the checkout this morning, the checkout person had a running nose and watering eyes. In between scanning groceries he was bringing out the same hanky, wiping his nose, then rubbing the hanky all over his face, then putting the hanky back in his pocket before doing it all over again. I don't care if it's a common cold, the flu or the bubonic plague, you just don't do that! I moved to another checkout.


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