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Donna Noble Jun 24th 2016 7:42 am

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Originally Posted by ononno (Post 11983310)
Have a good weekend everybody. Relax, forget the knee jerk hysterical claptrap .... Monday things will have calmed down a bit.

Sorry but when was the last time you had a job interview set up, with plans to move to a different country?

Is the thinking that the EU are now going to say, ok the British can come over here even if the UK won't accept EU migrants.

Why prolong the agony? People need to know how to plan their futures now.

modicasa Jun 24th 2016 4:51 pm

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Nick - I can understand that things look bleak today, but the future is going to be bleak everywhere, so you shouldnt let this vote put you off. Do your interview and plan - nothing will change for you for at least 4 or 5 years, by which time you will be here, have permanent residentce and can apply for citizenship and then you can forget the whole boris thing. Italy, fortunately, isnt a country which delights in punishing, cat calling and blaming , in fact the majority of Italians will probably think the Anglo saxon model is the one to follow. Noone will blame you personally for Intesa San Paolo being a completely rubbish bank. Pack your suitcase and get over here - everything will loook much better with a decent coffee in front of you!

philat98 Jun 24th 2016 7:28 pm

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Originally Posted by Nick1971 (Post 11983284)

And now we'll have Bozo the clown as PM for a while until Farage casts his black serpent in the sky, LOL!

It wasn't very comforting to read the list of European political leaders who had sent the UK their congratulations.:eek:

Sancho Jun 24th 2016 8:40 pm

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It's just occurred to me that the Italian way of dealing with this sort of situation would be to let the UK go, followed by any other states that wanted, effectively putting paid to the EU as it is now, to declare the EU dissolved, then immediately to reinvent it under another name. Something like that happened with the Ministry of Agriculture in the early 90's. A referendum decided that it had to be abolished (or rather could not continue to be - a referendum can only be 'abrogativo" - i.e. it can only do away with something), so it was abolished, but something else was immediately created, doing exactly the same thing, or nothing, using the same funds, and employing the same people. I think it was called the Ministero delle Politiche Agricole (Ministry for Agricultural Policies). Rather like provinces, last year was it ?

sunnysider Jun 24th 2016 10:48 pm

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And something similarly cynical happened didn't it with regard to the public financing of political parties?

Sancho Jun 25th 2016 6:13 am

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An interesting piece here -

How to deliver a second EU referendum | Voices | The Independent

:fingerscrossed:

jonwel Jun 25th 2016 7:06 am

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I would be very pleased if there were a re-vote and if the re-vote gave the majority to Remain. But those are two big IFs; it's fundamental that if you want to criticise the way a vote was held you do it before the results are known!

currentaffairs Jun 25th 2016 9:46 am

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If the vote had been remain I doubt very much if there would have been protests in the street and suggestions about voiding the decision in parliament.. The fact is that no one -even most Brexiters- really believed that they would pull it off, and that has made the shock greater.

ononno Jun 25th 2016 7:17 pm

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Originally Posted by Donna Noble (Post 11983359)
Sorry but when was the last time you had a job interview set up, with plans to move to a different country?

Is the thinking that the EU are now going to say, ok the British can come over here even if the UK won't accept EU migrants.

Why prolong the agony? People need to know how to plan their futures now.

:rofl:1961

ononno Jun 25th 2016 7:21 pm

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Originally Posted by jonwel (Post 11984492)
I would be very pleased if there were a re-vote and if the re-vote gave the majority to Remain. But those are two big IFs; it's fundamental that if you want to criticise the way a vote was held you do it before the results are known!

Quite. It's called democracy. Don't blame the brexiters, blame the 28% who couldn't be bothered to get their arses into gear and go out and vote. Mainly the younger generation.

philat98 Jun 25th 2016 7:30 pm

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Originally Posted by ononno (Post 11984986)
:rofl:1961

Congratulations on your 55 years in Italy. Living here must have suited you very well.

sunnysider Jun 25th 2016 8:56 pm

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Cut - wonky linkhttp:// http://uk.reuters.com/articl...-idUKKCN0ZB0BE

sunnysider Jun 25th 2016 9:04 pm

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Cut, wonky link

Sancho Jun 26th 2016 2:23 am

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:thumbup:

sunnysider Jun 26th 2016 3:27 am

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Originally Posted by ononno (Post 11984989)
Quite. It's called democracy. Don't blame the brexiters, blame the 28% who couldn't be bothered to get their arses into gear and go out and vote. Mainly the younger generation.

Are there any figures on turnout for the various age groups? I agree that it was democracy - and although the turnout could and should ideally have been higher it was actually very healthy compared to some recent general elections - in some of those in some areas the turnout has been worryingly low for anyone who believes in democracy - another gift from the sparkly toothed Blair.

Not a cat in hell's chance of a rerun referendum - the very idea is a bad joke.

Ps - -if some kind person can point me at a step by step guide that may be on here to posting links on an android tab or phone I would be grateful. I can manage it with ease on many other forums but not on this one. A pm on this may be best so as not to clog the thread.


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