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Donna Noble Jul 6th 2016 11:56 pm

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Originally Posted by jonwel (Post 11995276)
Thanks, Donna, I know that's the rule, but I don't understand the reasoning behind it (except a general will to save money by fair means or foul). If the UK pension system pays me cost-of-living increases, it's not going to cost INPS any more than if I was living in the UK so I don't see why there has to be an agreement about it.

Yes, I don't know how that works either. If you have paid into both systems and then retire, don't you get it all through the country that you've decided to retire in? Ie if you decide to go back to the UK, you get it throught the DWP and if in Italy through that system. If you decided to retire to UK and then change your mind?

I recall asking sometime back about healthcare and citizenship. I seem to remember understanding that if you are an Italian citizen you have a right to healthcare whether you pay into the system or not? Is this true? Maybe I miss understood?

jonwel Jul 7th 2016 1:50 am

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Originally Posted by Donna Noble (Post 11996239)
Yes, I don't know how that works either. If you have paid into both systems and then retire, don't you get it all through the country that you've decided to retire in?

Well, it doesn't seem to be so in my case. I receive a small pension from the DWP, who has my IBAN number. I'm now qualifying for a part from INPS, who again has my IBAN number.

Originally Posted by Donna Noble (Post 11996239)
Ie if you decide to go back to the UK, you get it throught the DWP and if in Italy through that system. If you decided to retire to UK and then change your mind?

Can't help you there, I'm afraid!

Originally Posted by Donna Noble (Post 11996239)
I recall asking sometime back about healthcare and citizenship. I seem to remember understanding that if you are an Italian citizen you have a right to healthcare whether you pay into the system or not? Is this true? Maybe I miss understood?

That may be so. I'm not an Italian citizen. To get onto the Italian healthcare books it was enough for me to show a CUD to prove that I was working and paying taxes. But that was a good number of years back - it may not be so easy now.

Sancho Jul 15th 2016 10:11 pm

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Dear Brits: This is what it’s like to be a non-EU citizen living in the EU.

highlander1 Jul 16th 2016 12:27 am

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Article full of inaccurate figures, number of residents, EU contributions and ''rabies'' is endemic in quite a few of EU and neighboring countries.
As for the comments...:thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:

Sancho Jul 16th 2016 10:35 pm

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Don't know if this might be an idea - Brits ask for dual citizenship for expats in Spain post Brexit

ononno Jul 17th 2016 6:00 pm

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OMG, there is more crap being spouted post referendum than there was during the Remain fear campaign!

morpeth Jul 18th 2016 1:39 am

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Originally Posted by ononno (Post 12005118)
OMG, there is more crap being spouted post referendum than there was during the Remain fear campaign!

It seems worldwide a turning point is underway where people are not satisfied with trends in their countries which politicians are unable to address, whether Brexit in the UK, the general political mood in USA, and other areas.

My impression is that for those that voted to leave that they have concerns that while Brexit may not address the other side doesn't have way to address with remaining. The same in a different context in the USA. And the changing world economy, politics and in Europe the demographic trends point to a much different world in 10 or 20 years.

portia Jul 19th 2016 2:39 am

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This girl sounds very young. It's the sort of patronising article that comes from a sixth form debate.

philat98 Jul 19th 2016 6:25 am

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At least the Americans made Johnson sweat a bit today.

Boris Johnson grilled over past ‘outright lies’ at uneasy press conference | Politics | The Guardian

arjacey Jul 19th 2016 10:53 pm

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Originally Posted by ononno (Post 12005118)
OMG, there is more crap being spouted post referendum than there was during the Remain fear campaign!

Both sides were guilty of misinforming....

Donna Noble Jul 26th 2016 10:03 pm

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May meeting Renzi in Rome today.

sunnysider Jul 27th 2016 12:08 am

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That should be interesting - would be interested to hear how italian tv reports it.

As i understand it, Renzi is trying to leverage brexit for all it is worth to try to get the eu and germany in particular to cut him some slack with regard to the italian banks.

37100 Jul 27th 2016 7:41 pm

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Renzi, " tempi chiari e chertezze del percorso".

37100 Jul 28th 2016 2:00 am

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Opps 'certezze'.

Trasnadonnta Jul 30th 2016 12:34 pm

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Six million UK citizens are eligible for Irish passports and so far, the rush to get them has been phenomenal. There are at least two years left before you are out of the EU, so there is no hurry!
This post appeared recently in a newpaper: Brexit could be followed by Grexit, Departugal, Italeave, Czechout, Oustria, Finish, Slovakout, Latervia, Byegium. Only Remania will stay. Well, at least a sense of humour will prevail when all is said and done!!


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