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Of course Goans are responsible for their own behaviour, and the middle classes and wealthy (as elsewhere) could be much more involved. That said they didn't choose the Chief Minister, he was voted in on a BJP ticket and immediately changed party, he will just support Congress orders to keep his job.
My objection to Gregit was his language and the idea that ALL Goans excrete in their gardens etc. ALL Indians do this or that.

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would someone explain how the smilies work, I don't seem to be able to get them all onto page, I have tried copying, no luck !! seems plenty available, but limited to ones at top of message box, was looking for the person sleeping with the zzzzzs coming off. :confused: thanks

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More today than ever in history "perception is reality" . And then it actually does become fact. Goa is not far from being factually an open toilet in many ways.

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The whole of India is in many ways an open toilet. My point is that not everyone uses it as such. Relatives visiting Uk from India find our usual system of one bathroom per house very primitive. They are used to ensuite bathrooms (and they are not particularly wealthy).

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of one billion people. how many dont do you think?

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There are about 300 million people in the middle class range in India, and the working poor that I have met have toilets in their houses. Along with the wealthy these people are also 'Indian'.
I cannot at this moment provide figures for those without a toilet and would agree that even one is too many and an absolute disgrace also the lack of progress over decades of Congress government.

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realising this is now three years old, same summit in India three or four weeks back. Same, same
Yamini Aiyar
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Posted: Tuesday , Nov 20, 2007 at 0000 hrs



New Delhi played host to the World Toilet Summit 2007 a fortnight ago. There is nothing as unglamorous as the vision of dozens of people locked up in a conference room discussing toilets. Yet, the World Toilet Summit is far more vital to India’s future prospects than the Fortune Global Forum that took place in the same week and hogged all the attention.

India’s sanitation record is extremely poor. According to the United Nations Human Development Report, 2006, a mere 33 per cent of India’s population has access to improved sanitation facilities. And this is the cause of over 500,000 infant deaths annually and cost India Rs 5 billion every year in medical treatment and loss of work.

Unfortunately sanitation has always been accorded very low priority by government. But more importantly, even where money has been spent, it has addressed the wrong problem. Take the Central Rural Sanitation Programme (CRSP) for instance. Started in 1986, the CRSP aimed to construct toilets in every village through the provision of subsidies. There was little traction for the programme and coverage remained low — at 20 per cent in 2001. Worse, when toilets where built, they were rarely used. In Himachal Pradesh alone, of the 4 lakh toilets constructed, a mere 3 per cent where being used. In Maharashtra, 1.7 million toilets were constructed with less than 50 per cent usage. Most of the time, the toilets were used for reasons other than latrines — in Maharashtra there are cases reported where toilets where converted into puja rooms since they were the only concrete structures in the village! In states like Himachal Pradesh and Maharashtra, there is inadequate understanding about the links between sanitation and health

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It really makes you think we should! Even Dickie is telling us to. Pity they are known as thugs but I do agree with their policies (on paper)

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Hi Just click on the smilie you want, and if you want more, just click on more then the smilie you require.:thumbsup: :rolleyes:

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thanx Noni but I've tried that but wondering if it's because using google chrome, none of the extra smilies work for me:(:(:confused:

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It shouldn't I have google chrome on my desktop. :banghead: :scaredhair: :beer: :drinkwine: showing off now. :rolleyes:

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If there are no more British Charters coming into Goa why do you ask if they are coming Schedule - do you think they are coming by Private Jet or on your broomstick. Rather daft question.

Went to Baga last night for dinner with 10 friends and it was humming - CSM road was really busy and all along Baga road the shops were open and doing business.
Been to Why Not in Calangute this evening with friends as that is where they wanted to go before they back to UK and it was packed - Kareoke is not our scene but this was good - people who could sing and not screach.
Calangute has not closed down - far from it.

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Noni, Have you really read their policies? If you have and I half-suspected it from some of the posts. I find it unbelievable that someone who agrees with a political party that would like to remove all non-Europeans from the UK and is openly racist. How can such a person settle as an expat in a non-European country and feel free to criticise that country in general (however justified the visa and housing problems).
If you haven't fully understood the BNP policies then I apologise sincerely, Nick Griffin has fooled many.
However I will not contribute to this forum again and feel ashamed at having done so.

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No! No! you have got it wrong, what i meant is I agreed with some of the things he said, although I would not vote for him, because they are thugs.

But you have got to agree any foreign person who gets into UK gets everything given to them, mostly without paying any contribution. We have paid for our place in India, had the property registered, your government has taken our tax for purchasing some 2 Laks - then has the audacity to say we cannot own it.

If we squeak over here against any foreigner it IS racial, and they all play the racial card - what help do we get in India - sweet fanny all.

J5, I and many of the other regular BE members are the least racial people you could come across.

Met my new surgeon to-day and he came from Bombay, he made a joke about me being the same colour as him. When I said we had been in Goa for six months, he brought up the property issue, he was disgusted with the way we have been treated after the way in which his family and friends had been welcomed in the UK.

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IMO, politics should not be the hindrance or the impetus for human necessities such as proper sanitation, clean drinking water, safe roads, healthy living. That these have become political issues in Goa (never were before the 70s) says a lot about the decline in Goan society's values. Places like Mumbai have had the problem for 50 years, and it will never be a city for a decent average human existence because it lacks the generosity demanded of its inhabitant to become so. Mumbai's government reflects that lack of will, but Goa still has a chance.