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johnny five Apr 25th 2010 5:57 am

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Some political programme was just on the TV, and the guy being interviewed said that one illegal was been sent back every 6 minutes.
You'd think he'd get fed up wouldnt you?

Greg, dont bother arguing with this Bipolar person, anyone who is prepared to state that

As a Eu. Union citizen he will have to have a job to come to the UK, and therefore he will pay taxes and N. Insurance.
is so ill informed..............these are the people who can enter UK with virtually no questions asked, which is why the Goan in question is coming via Portugal. He and his family can happily circumnavigate all the rules to keep their type out, give a load of bull-sh*t to one of the many supportive and affluent "Goan Associations" here, and off they go on their new life among the "hated ferangis and paklos", innit?

gregit Apr 25th 2010 6:12 am

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Why would a Karnatakan family talk good of Goan, when they just want everybody out of THEIR state:confused:

The one they keep sending back is probably the only name on the computer, probably called John Smith :thumbup:

Bipat Apr 25th 2010 7:05 am

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Originally Posted by johnny five (Post 8520560)
You'd think he'd get fed up wouldnt you?

[Greg, dont bother arguing with this Bipolar person, anyone who is prepared to state that is so ill informed..............these are the people who can enter UK with virtually no questions asked, which is why the Goan in question is coming via Portugal. He and his family can happily circumnavigate all the rules to keep their type out, give a load of bull-sh*t to one of the many supportive and affluent "Goan Associations" here, and off they go on their new life among the "hated ferangis and paklos", innit?]

I think that to describe a contributer as 'bipolar' intended as an insult is one insult too far. Those who are 'bipolar' suffer greatly with their illness.

Greg there you go again all those from Karnataka think this! All,
Indians do that, All All Goans etc. Doall the British take drugs, get drunk on Saturday, carry knives etc?
Don't bother to reply we can never agree.

johnny five Apr 25th 2010 8:14 am

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Bipolar with a capital "b", a take on Bipat. Could just as easy be Bicycle/Binocular/Bison!
bipolar with a small "b", descriptive of someone with a depressive illness.
Bi-focal, the ability to look at things in two different ways.........try it?

gregit Apr 25th 2010 8:18 am

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Originally Posted by johnny five (Post 8520736)
Bipolar with a capital "b", a take on Bipat. Could just as easy be Bicycle/Binocular/Bison!
bipolar with a small "b", descriptive of someone with a depressive illness.
Bi-focal, the ability to look at things in two different ways.........try it?


adj.
Relating to or having two poles or charges.
Relating to a device capable of using two polarizations, such as a transistor that uses positive and negative charge carriers.
Relating to or involving both of the earth's polar regions.
Having two opposite or contradictory ideas or natures: the bipolar world of the postwar period.

johnny five Apr 25th 2010 9:22 am

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Originally Posted by gregit (Post 8520743)
adj.
Relating to or having two poles or charges.
Relating to a device capable of using two polarizations, such as a transistor that uses positive and negative charge carriers.
Relating to or involving both of the earth's polar regions.
Having two opposite or contradictory ideas or natures: the bipolar world of the postwar period.


thank you gregit..............

you is so litrit......

from the poit......

innit?

Bipat Apr 25th 2010 9:55 am

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Originally Posted by johnny five (Post 8520736)
Bipolar with a capital "b", a take on Bipat. Could just as easy be Bicycle/Binocular/Bison!
bipolar with a small "b", descriptive of someone with a depressive illness.
Bi-focal, the ability to look at things in two different ways.........try it?

The offending words were 'Bipolar person', Bicycle person !!! 'Bison person !!
But you are right with Bi-focal -- thankyou, I do look at things in two different ways, the whole point of my previous messages.

k800mer Apr 25th 2010 11:04 pm

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The taxi driver I use when in Goa has told me that he is applying for Portuguese passports for himself and his family so that they can all come to live in the UK. He was asking about work for himself however he is nearing retirement age in the UK. I tried to explain to him that he would probably find it very difficult to get work but he is doing it for his children as he thinks they will have a better life in the UK. I am not so sure about that, just like India you have to have a good income to live well but I suppose as EU citizens they will be able to claim social security which should at least keep them from starving. Once they have a Portuguese passport they loose any right to an Indian passport and become foreigners in India so can not just go back.

gregit Apr 25th 2010 11:50 pm

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Met and now friends with a Goan taxi driver here in the uk, he acknowledges he would have made a mistake but for having some family here, he's been here 6 years. I have met his wife and family, and is interesting talking how he feels he has benefited, some really simple things, but mostly childcare as his wife works as well, he doesn't consider going back to Goa, only to visit.

wheatsheaf Apr 26th 2010 2:02 am

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Originally Posted by gregit (Post 8520289)
Always say how I find, your point, was this man not paying his taxes in Goa, was he not living with substandard services in Goa, was he not partly responsible for these services. But he thinks he is going to a better lifestyle, with less rubbish on the street, health standards higher even to basics, where restaraunt can be shut for the state of it's toilets. All Indians think it is easier in the UK, for all it's problems, it is, but we have to pay for those services, everyman and woman. Everystreet cleaner, road cleaner, dustbin man, not just put it in our pockets like Goan

One of the many annoyances globally is getting some kind of 'minimum' understanding of acceptable health, safety, courtesey and responsibility towards the benefit of the wider community. Gregit is legitimately concerned about these traits being non existent in Goa of today, which will then be carried by the modern Goan emigrant into the UK. This is a truth that cannot be denied. It may not have been so 20 years ago. The most alarming trait of course is the total lack of 'citizenship responsibility' in Goa when this single trait is all that is needed to take Goa rapidly into the best governed State in South Asia

k800mer Apr 26th 2010 2:18 am

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Originally Posted by gregit (Post 8521981)
Met and now friends with a Goan taxi driver here in the uk, he acknowledges he would have made a mistake but for having some family here, he's been here 6 years. I have met his wife and family, and is interesting talking how he feels he has benefited, some really simple things, but mostly childcare as his wife works as well, he doesn't consider going back to Goa, only to visit.

My taxi driver has no relatives here so will be relying on his british friends to help them to settle here which may not be a good idea. I think he will quickly find out who his real friends are when he wants something from them.

wheatsheaf Apr 26th 2010 2:49 am

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Originally Posted by k800mer (Post 8522248)
My taxi driver has no relatives here so will be relying on his british friends to help them to settle here which may not be a good idea. I think he will quickly find out who his real friends are when he wants something from them.

mind blowing that more than 2 centuries of excellent Goan-British relationships has come to this. Where it was once genuine and understanding, it has like everything else everywhere, become one where participants live like life itself is 'clutching at straws'

Bipat Apr 26th 2010 3:48 am

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Originally Posted by wheatsheaf (Post 8522213)
One of the many annoyances globally is getting some kind of 'minimum' understanding of acceptable health, safety, courtesey and responsibility towards the benefit of the wider community. Gregit is legitimately concerned about these traits being non existent in Goa of today, which will then be carried by the modern Goan emigrant into the UK. This is a truth that cannot be denied. It may not have been so 20 years ago. The most alarming trait of course is the total lack of 'citizenship responsibility' in Goa when this single trait is all that is needed to take Goa rapidly into the best governed State in South Asia

I presume you mean best governed state in India, this should be possible given that it is the smallest. However it needs a good Chief Minister to govern. The present minister is somewhat opportunistic first in the Congress Party, then a BJP minister, now back in the Congress and rewarded with the present job so probably self-advancement the first aim!!

tarkacreek Apr 26th 2010 8:41 am

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Vote BNP

wheatsheaf Apr 26th 2010 10:41 am

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Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 8522422)
I presume you mean best governed state in India, this should be possible given that it is the smallest. However it needs a good Chief Minister to govern. The present minister is somewhat opportunistic first in the Congress Party, then a BJP minister, now back in the Congress and rewarded with the present job so probably self-advancement the first aim!!

"Best governed" will only ever happen in Goa (probably the only place that has any chance of it happening on the sub-continent)
, if Goans can ever take responsibility for their actions. Which is the precise point Gregit is making. Goans can no longer blame 'outsiders', 'brit-expats', 'non Goans', for what's happening to the decline in law and order, or the lack of proper planning, and the rapid destruction of the environment leading to disease and polluted water. These are simple basics in the framework of reponsible citizenry. Or are you saying, Bipat, that Goans DO NOT have a say in their state?


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