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imho - we do not talk to each like that one here - we are a discussion fourm not a falling out

Excuse me ! Read what you have wrote to me and the swear words you wrote . Within 5 seconds of writing what i said i edited it as it was nowhere as bad as what you had already wrote to me. You can see by the timings of the edit.
End of story, i have better things to do than argue with someone who swears on a web page and makes a argument over nothing !
I see you have edited your post where you put i only had 18 posts .
Where did i ever put about the taxi drivers Newtons and so on cheating us ? you have added all this on to make me "bite " to it . Didnt work so you then put we dont talk to people on here like that !

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[QUOTE=babu1;7731113]The Valued Opinion of a 'Gulfee', a man with a plan for the salvation of Goa. Oh yes, and he lives in Abu Dhabi :confused:

What planet is this man on???; '...Goa....a world-class state....' :rofl:


Hi Babu1

I think it should read ; Goa... IN a world -class state !:rofl:

Oh and yes this IDIOT has been living in Adu Dhabi for at least a couple of years ( Pot+ Kettle + Black ?)

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/goahomes/

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Hi there,

I'm just back from a certain function in L.A and Hey you guys can I tell you something ? youv'e REALLY hit the headlines in the U.S.A with your Petition !
I was genuinely AMAZED to see it over there and causing such a stir.

Don't think the American public will react to kindly to whats happening to their British friends especially with the new President making his point felt with racism issues....

I look forward to reading more about your stories soon

Good Luck, youv'e got my vote !

Simon :D

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I have never used "swear words" on this forum and I try to use the correct English Language with grammar and punctuation in the right places when I write on British Expats.

We are off travelling again from Saturday so we will be "well off out of it " here in on Saturday so will speak to you all in September - God willing.
See you all in September.

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"Goa trip will not cost you much now":sneaky:, due to the dwindling number of tourists. :thumbdown::thumbdown: and who is to blame.:sneaky: see http://goanvoice.org.uk. side column.

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Stumbled across this, oldish 'news', I know;

Richard Orange
10.02.09

• The last time I saw British deputy high commissioner Vicki Treadell speak, she voiced relief at how smoothly the move to the commission's new offices had gone.

The Foreign Office hit the peak of the city's property bubble last April when it forked out about £20 million for floors in the Bandra-Kurla Complex — you'd pay about a third less today.

But two months in, the bottom floor is still boarded up and staff take their tea in an unfurnished concrete hangar because the canteen still isn't finished.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standa...our/article.do

© 2009 ES London Limited

Value for money, without a doubt.

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Insulting foreigners
Mary Lar, Calangute
I felt insulted when I read the letter by Marcus D’Sa titled ‘Reduce Visa duration’ (Herald, 1 Jul), when he says that we foreigners who live here are a drain on the economy.
We have bought homes or rented them. We pay for all health care in pounds sterling. We give work to some locals, who are now our friends. We try to help wherever possible. If visa duration is reduced further, we have to leave the country to go and renew visas, spending money in other countries which we would have spent in Goa.
There are around 400 Britishers living in Goa compared with over 60,000 Goans living in the UK. They don’t have the worry that someone may take away their homes. They don’t have to pay for health care, and even get benefits when they have no work.
Please let us just live in peace

From the Herald to-day.

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Has anyone seen the latest on the Goan voice. I am so furious, upset etc.

So, it appears we don't care about Goans, is that the case? I think not. Apparantly Goans could be kicked out of the UK at any time, is that the case? it is not. We are all people without worth.

It is written in an apparantly rational way. I think that someone should get the facts right.

1. That most UK nationals do care about the sons and daughters of the soil and it is true they do not care for the corrupt users of Goa. These users of Goa include members of the Govt. as well as foreigners who have criminal intent.

2. The sons and daughters of the soil have made it abundently clear to me that they have to pay bribes from cradle to grave. Yes, for birth certificates death certificates and for the right to cremation or burial. That is appalling and any Goan Nationalist who thinks what goes on here is really OK is not even decent.

3. It is absolutely groundless to infer that Goans in the UK would be thrown out. They won't and why should they be.

4. Identity is fluid and changes through time and interaction with others. There are of course issues with regard to population in Goa. However, these should be dealt with sensitively, and quite frankly without all this hate the FN stuff. It has been done before by people that really are not considered decent ie; Hitler

OK enough good work with the petition,

r

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Goanet Highlights by Cornel DaCosta from www.goanvoice.org.uk
Re the recent furore over the Brits purchasing property in Goa, to the best of our understanding, it appears that Goan consciousness and awareness was raised with the discovery that large tracts of Goa were purchased by some Russians and Israelis recently. Rumours spread quickly that some Goans were prevented from entering areas demarcated by these two groups and that they were up to all kinds of nefarious activities. In time, a local 'Save Goa' movement emerged to regulate the inflow into Goa of well to do Indians, to stop unauthorised large scale construction work sprouting all over the place and drawing in itinerant workers for these projects, to stop unapproved hill cutting and building works, and to control the intensification of mining that was causing havoc to the environment. The purchase of land and property by relatively small numbers of ex pat Brits and other Europeans also became an irritation within this conundrum.

Ministers addressing these concerns seem to have taken the easy way out. Instead of taking on the Russians and Israelis, their soft target easily became the Brits and they raised questions over the rights of Brits to buy property and settle in Goa. Few would perhaps want to disrupt those who purchased property following proper legal and financial procedures and suggestions about retrospective legislation to confiscate some properties are deemed highly questionable by many. However, there are some suspicions that some purchases were acquired illegally through bribery or that some purchasers were duped by locals keen to make a quick buck through devious ways including selling property illegitimately and illegally.

However, local Goanet responses are of interest on this issue and I summarise in my words, those that seem to stand out: a) If so many Goans had not left Goa over the years, we would not have been in this mess now. b) Unlike some western Goan diasporean countries, Goa does not have the infrastructure to absorb foreigners. c) We note so many tears for the foreigners but none for local Goans who now cannot purchase properties as the foreigners have effectively pushed up property prices. d) India is bursting at the seams. It cannot take in new people. e) Why do these Brits want to come here when so many from Goa are keen to leave? f) Low calibre Brits with few skills to offer want to come to Goa. g) While some 50,000 Goans may be settled in the UK, they may be expelled in time and may need to return to Goa. h) We in Goa and India are not ruled by foreigners but those Goans who have left for places like the UK are happy to be ruled by foreigners. i) The Goans in places like the UK undertake menial work that the locals will not do. j) Food prices in Goa and especially that of fish have gone up because of the foreigners. k) The British foreigners are not the problem but the "trash" coming into Goa from the rest of India. l) Brits come to Goa because they cannot afford to buy property in the UK. m) The Goans owning property in the UK are British nationals while the Brits in Goa are foreigners.

With such polarisation of views the issue of whether British nationals of Goan origin may buy and own property in Goa has not surfaced but no doubt it will sooner or later. Goan Voice (UK) readers wishing to comment on the above may do so to [email protected]

For a profile of Cornel DaCosta, click here.

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Can I remind you all that Cornel Da Costa has signed the petition:thumbup:

That he has also urged other to do so:thumbup:

That he has expressed the views of some local Goans in Goa to pour scorn on those views.He has done so much for the British that have bought out in Goa he isn't against us,please read the article again,this article certainly leans towards the British that have bought. Also read the link to his article last week which says the very same:thumbup:

I cannot re-iterate my point any clearer that the Voice or Cornel are NOT AGAINST USThe link to his earlier post http://britishexpats.com/forum/showp...0&postcount=88
Hope this clears this matter up

GC

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There is some ambiguity in Cornel's article and I too am left wondering whether this is deliberate.

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Sorry if I was not clear with regard to the summary of views from goanet.
I am not criticising the author at all.

I am expressing my frustration with the misinformation and stereotypical views of FNs that abound at the moment. It is very unjust and basically we have no rights to reply. The constant criticism of FNs from so many quarters is really unacceptable and I am sick of it.

I hope that clears up any misunderstanding.

r

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l) Brits come to Goa because they cannot afford to buy property in the UK. m) The Goans owning property in the UK are British nationals while the Brits in Goa are foreigners.
sorry i know i with probably be shot down in flames for this but as said before everyone is entitled to an opinion and mine is
he may be trying to help or stick up for us but he still has a very bigotted view
1, i owned my own property in uk and also a hotel,
2, the goans owing property in the uk being british nationals are because the uk allows citizenship, in india citizenship is between 7 to 11 years but god help the brits if they try, for example the trouble you get trying to change a name on the pwd or electricity or house tax!!!

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The thing I find really difficult is that the FN issue is basically being turned into a them and us issue. However, things are not so black and white. Many FNs support the Goans in protecting the environment and would contribute in any way they could if allowed to do so. Many Goans do wish to have the few FN here stay. The problem is that the dominant discourse here is about opposition, there is no voice really for Goans and FNs to discuss what they have in common as well as what is diverse. A dialogue based on these things seems essential. It also seems that the powers that be will allow only an adversarial approach. With or without a few Brits Goa will change, it seems a travesty to me that most Goans will have no part in any debate about change.

r