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Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Originally Posted by Bipat
(Post 11440834)
You know you are splitting hairs. They can only purchase now if resident, that is a restriction!!!
How to be resident if you come initially as a tourist for six months?? You yourself have advised posters to get a longer visa when they are there long term which is what the previous poster was discussing. Yes, you are right my word "often" about yearly visas was wrong but I have read posts from long term renters saying they have got a year visa. Also, at least those who post here seem to want to go back to the UK during monsoon for instance. So getting visas is not a problem for them. I, and a very few other people go to the considerable hassle of getting 'X' visas and RP's every year - there is a long list of documents required for these, some of which simply do not exist in the format specified. As David Hendry pointed out, the RP is then retained by Immigration on leaving so it all has to be done again next 'season'. None of this would be necessary if 5-year 'X's were still available, or retirement/ settlement visas introduced. Most property owners avoid the hassle by just getting T visas every year, even though they're not legally entitled to (a very Indian style solution). Yes there are obstacles to living in India, but it is possible, and easier if renting. Everything you do in India has obstacles!! What is this forum about? people who are living in India isn't it! what are you doing?? My main point was that if it is thought all so awful in India and difficult to stay why try???:confused: AndyD 8-)₹ |
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Originally Posted by a_f_d
(Post 11441455)
No split hairs, you (or your company) have always needed to have RBI permission and/or be resident. PJ's comment was that there are deliberate obstacles put up for anyone attempting this; many of these are in the form of unreasonable quibbles about visas (just like your next point!)
Why should this be a problem? What other visa could people initially come on? The official advice is still that 'X' visas can be issued - but not until the applicant has property in India (and that such applicants are no longer entitled to a Tourist visa). The residency law (FEMA) does not mention visas. I have in the past advised people who have property in India to apply for 1-year 'X' visas, but since last year I have advised that HCI appear to be issuing 6-month visas to property owners (theoretically extendable in India) so it makes no sense to pay the extra for a 1-year visa which you probably won't get and apparently don't need. afaik thay were all talking about 1-year (or rarely 2-year) T visas, which have a 180 day limit per stay. No, it is a considerable problem, and shouldn't/ needn't be! I, and a very few other people go to the considerable hassle of getting 'X' visas and RP's every year - there is a long list of documents required for these, some of which simply do not exist in the format specified. As David Hendry pointed out, the RP is then retained by Immigration on leaving so it all has to be done again next 'season'. None of this would be necessary if 5-year 'X's were still available, or retirement/ settlement visas introduced. Most property owners avoid the hassle by just getting T visas every year, even though they're not legally entitled to (a very Indian style solution). Not sure that the renters would agree with you. Now there I DO agree with you I live in India for something over 6 months a year, and the UK for most of the rest of the time. We stay in India and moan about the bureaucracy, isn't that what you're supposed to do in India? AndyD 8-)₹ The moaning I meant was about all Indian people/India in general. Yes we all moan about bureaucracy both countries. I am moaning/in a state, wasting time in front of the screen sorting out sending by courier yet more copies of all family's documents of no objection to selling our small patch of land, the nth. time we have produced them. If----??? sale goes through we have to go any day now, instead of planned Late Nov. No advance notice will be given, just book tickets and go. the likelihood is that the buyer will withdraw as before, so all stress for nothing. As well as yet another hour on the phone to Bl**** Thomas Cook over no refund yet to hotel booking at a Mumbai Airport hotel in June which we paid twice for as TC had not paid the money on. (Not India's fault that one). Never will use them again. |
Re: In To-day's Newspapers
First of all i am difficulty logging on to this site has any one else had these problems ? I log in then it freezes and i have to re-log via my bookmarks menu. Interesting article in todays Navind Times re FEMA and house purchases by foriegners, which according to this Goan MP are allowed under certain circumstances....strange......have a look please.
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Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Originally Posted by prestonjohn
(Post 11442253)
First of all i am difficulty logging on to this site has any one else had these problems ? I log in then it freezes and i have to re-log via my bookmarks menu. Interesting article in todays Navind Times re FEMA and house purchases by foriegners, which according to this Goan MP are allowed under certain circumstances....strange......have a look please.
Quote: PANAJI: Claiming that the state of Goa is facing a threat from ISIS terrorists, Rajya Sabha MP and secretary of All India Congress Committee (AICC) Shantaram Naik said that it is absolutely essential that purchasing of properties by foreign nationals which is, unfortunately, permissible under certain conditions, has to be administratively and legally, restricted in public interest by amending Foreign Exchange Management Act (FEMA). Naik said the government should not only impose penalty equivalent to thrice the sum involved and Rs 5,000 per day for continued contravention, but should confiscate, all the currency, security or any other money or property in respect of which the contravention has taken place, in favour of central government, with respect to which a substantial share should be given to state government. By the way I am not experiencing any trouble logging on. |
Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Originally Posted by k800mer
(Post 11442283)
The whole article reads a bit strange to me but it would seem that this person wants the law changed so that under no circumstances can a foreigner even if a resident buy property and he is making terrorism the excuse, how will confiscating property and money from foreigners stop any threat from ISIS. Perhaps he sold off family land and houses and now wants them back. If he is really worried about ISIS in Goa perhaps he should be looking closer to home for the threat rather than at foreigners who bought and are mostly European Christians not Muslim.
Quote: PANAJI: Claiming that the state of Goa is facing a threat from ISIS terrorists, Rajya Sabha MP and secretary of All India Congress Committee (AICC) Shantaram Naik said that it is absolutely essential that purchasing of properties by foreign nationals which is, unfortunately, permissible under certain conditions, has to be administratively and legally, restricted in public interest by amending Foreign Exchange Management Act (FEMA). Naik said the government should not only impose penalty equivalent to thrice the sum involved and Rs 5,000 per day for continued contravention, but should confiscate, all the currency, security or any other money or property in respect of which the contravention has taken place, in favour of central government, with respect to which a substantial share should be given to state government. By the way I am not experiencing any trouble logging on. His 'special status for Goa' activities didn't come to anything. (I did not have a problem logging in) |
Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Originally Posted by Bipat
(Post 11442298)
As a Congress MP, he no longer has much influence and can say/ask for what he likes doesn't mean Government will listen.
His 'special status for Goa' activities didn't come to anything. (I did not have a problem logging in) |
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Welcome To IANS Live - NATION - Less Russians on Goan beaches this season
Could be an interesting and quieter season :thumbsup: RofS |
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HAPPY DIWALI TO ALL AND A PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR.
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First ever BJP Chief Minister in Maharashtra.
A positive sign for Modi after a few months in office. LIVE: Devendra Fadnavis takes oath as Maharashtra CM; BJP leaders convince Uddhav Thackeray to attend ceremony | The Indian Express |
Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Originally Posted by Bipat
(Post 11457105)
First ever BJP Chief Minister in Maharashtra.
A positive sign for Modi after a few months in office. LIVE: Devendra Fadnavis takes oath as Maharashtra CM; BJP leaders convince Uddhav Thackeray to attend ceremony | The Indian Express Devendra Fadnavis is a Marathi Brahmin. He received excellent support in his political career from his elder brother Ashish who was an active member of the Akhil Bharatiya Vidyarthi Parishad (ABVP) - the student wing of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh(RSS). AndyD |
Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Originally Posted by a_f_d
(Post 11457487)
precis from Wikipedia:
Devendra Fadnavis is a Marathi Brahmin. He received excellent support in his political career from his elder brother Ashish who was an active member of the Akhil Bharatiya Vidyarthi Parishad (ABVP) - the student wing of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh(RSS). AndyD Why do you and PJ go on and on about RSS?? BJP supporters I mix with, laugh about the 'shorts up to the arm pits, the marching' etc but point out the social and education work they do. What is wrong with promoting Hinduism? It is a Hindu majority country! You might as well condemn the UK for the fact that its Government and Royalty promote Christianity. (What about the old Monday Club and the ultra right wing types in the Conservative party??). India is a democracy and the overwhelming majority voted in the BJP, why do you object? Just hope they can fulfil their aspirations for the country. |
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I didn't object, you reported his appointment as 'a positive sign...', I elaborated a little on his background.
AndyD 8-)₹ |
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There's quite a difference between promoting and insisting. Already the clowns are talking of meat eating. Different dining rooms for veg. and non veg in the IIT's.( Plates used previously by non veg, may get used by veg's.)
Western dress, mobiles encourage rapists!!! Sure, 5 year olds run around in jeans with mobiles hanging out of the pockets. Foreign languages should not be taught in schools. I agree. This will encourage Indians to stay in their own country and help India regain its rightful place in the world. School books in Guj. tell how India invented int. comb. engines. Aircraft and tv. So what happened ? I must also agree the sari is much nicer than jeans. Particularly pre. early 20th century, when they consisted of one piece, from the waist down!!!Part of Indian culture which should be protected and promoted. Mr. Modi is certainly going to change India, let's see. Davie. |
Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Originally Posted by a_f_d
(Post 11457952)
I didn't object, you reported his appointment as 'a positive sign...', I elaborated a little on his background.
AndyD 8-)₹ I didn't mean positive because of the man himself but positive because first time in 60+ years a BJP CM there. Indicates Modi still in favour in spite of not totally transforming the country within a few months!!! |
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Originally Posted by davidhendry
(Post 11457970)
There's quite a difference between promoting and insisting. Already the clowns are talking of meat eating. Different dining rooms for veg. and non veg in the IIT's.( Plates used previously by non veg, may get used by veg's.)
Western dress, mobiles encourage rapists!!! Sure, 5 year olds run around in jeans with mobiles hanging out of the pockets. Foreign languages should not be taught in schools. I agree. This will encourage Indians to stay in their own country and help India regain its rightful place in the world. School books in Guj. tell how India invented int. comb. engines. Aircraft and tv. So what happened ? I must also agree the sari is much nicer than jeans. Particularly pre. early 20th century, when they consisted of one piece, from the waist down!!!Part of Indian culture which should be protected and promoted. Mr. Modi is certainly going to change India, let's see. Davie. That Lunatic going on about women's dress, do you think anyone listens??? Saris-- very few young (under 60) women wear them everyday, usually salwar kameez nowadays, they are kept for attending weddings etc. or work. The very poor wear them as they can be really cheap and easy to wash. This is not going to change because some man says so:lol: Actually 'half' saris are worn traditionally by unmarried girls --with a blouse or cross cotton piece, at wedding ceremony the bride comes out in a full sari half way through. |
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