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johnny five Mar 19th 2009 1:26 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by John Katrina (Post 7397714)
yup im with andy. i cant even get to the times of india let alone find an article. can the person who mentioned it just let us know briefly what it says or link (some can do this clever stuff ive heard!).

thanks kat

Have a look here Kat

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/C...ow/4284230.cms

By the way, your pm arrived safe. Will write my life history later. Or maybe just basics or we will have no conversation in October!

Daff Mar 19th 2009 7:40 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by a_f_d (Post 7397371)
How do you get to see the Comments?

AndyD 8-)#

Thats the whole point, there aren't any!! None of his Goan friends are rushing to his defence and no one is fighting off his accusation that the authorities are trying to take over his business. Heaven forbid :eek:

The bit K-C was actually referring to was right at the bottom; an ad for fast track Indian Visas at £120 for 2. :thumbsup:

Daff Mar 19th 2009 7:43 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by emsirrah (Post 7394252)
Hope they pick on the Red Lion on Calangute High Street or Molly Malones on a busy night when the clientele are are not too well oiled then they will get a little more of backlash than they got in Mangalore or they could find a "nice" little Russian bar in Morjim.:rofl:

We'd buy tickets to view the punch up between them and the Russians :thumbup::cool::rofl:

Goacrazy56 Mar 20th 2009 7:23 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers Well this should finish tourism altogether
 
This was in the Uk Times today a direct threat on British women drinking in pubs in Goa What is the matter with these people are they completely barking:eek: This should do tourism the world of good



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-Goa-bars.html

noni Mar 20th 2009 11:09 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers Well this should finish tourism altogether
 

Originally Posted by Goacrazy56 (Post 7402069)
This was in the Uk Times today a direct threat on British women drinking in pubs in Goa What is the matter with these people are they completely barking:eek: This should do tourism the world of good



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-Goa-bars.html

Here we go again, blame everybody but themselves. It must be wonderful being so perfect all the time.


Is it our fault that indian wives get killed for not obeying their husbands, or their dowery was not enough?
Is it our fault people murder each other, etc. etc. it is part of every day life out here?
Is it our fault that the old indian men walk around like Fenni monsters?
Is it our fault that the police do not do anything about the drugs in Anjuna etc. Even a blind man can see them being passed around, and guess who are dealing them, yep you've got it!

Is it our fault Goa is getting such bad press? They should open their eyes and look at themselves before blaming others.
This was once a beautiful friendly country.

Daff Mar 20th 2009 10:31 pm

Re: In To-day's Newspapers Well this should finish tourism altogether
 

Originally Posted by noni (Post 7402795)
Here we go again, blame everybody but themselves. It must be wonderful being so perfect all the time.


Is it our fault that indian wives get killed for not obeying their husbands, or their dowery was not enough?
Is it our fault people murder each other, etc. etc. it is part of every day life out here?
Is it our fault that the old indian men walk around like Fenni monsters?
Is it our fault that the police do not do anything about the drugs in Anjuna etc. Even a blind man can see them being passed around, and guess who are dealing them, yep you've got it!

Is it our fault Goa is getting such bad press? They should open their eyes and look at themselves before blaming others.
This was once a beautiful friendly country.


At this rate they will only have themselves to look at. Hope they like the view!! :curse::curse::mad:

old man Mar 20th 2009 10:58 pm

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by John Katrina (Post 7397714)
yup im with andy. i cant even get to the times of india let alone find an article. can the person who mentioned it just let us know briefly what it says or link (some can do this clever stuff ive heard!).

thanks kat

Can get onto the times of india by clicking J5's link, but not the comments.

hemingway Mar 22nd 2009 10:53 pm

In Today's Times of India
 
Okay - take a deep breath, exhale - here's one to make your blood boil. . . . . . . . . can you really believe the front of the brass kneck ba****ds??????????????? :curse::eek::curse::eek::curse::eek:

Copywright Times of India & all that:


Recession-hit Indian restaurants in UK ask for state aid


LONDON: Indian restaurants hit by recession, rising prices and staff shortages have started a campaign to petition the Gordon Brown government to
support the industry by raising the threshold at which small companies pay VAT.

Buffeted by steep fall in business, nearly 150 Indian restaurants that tickle palates across Britain have closed down since Christmas and many more are likely to shut shop in the next six months.

Owners of Indian restaurants in the east Midlands town of Leicester, which has a large minority of Indian origin, have started a campaign at the local and national levels to urge the government to come to their rescue in the same way it supported failing banks.

Enam Ali, chairman of the Guild of Bangladeshi Restaurateurs, said 140 Indian restaurants across Britain had closed since Christmas.

Abu Taher, who owns T&K Balti House in Leicester, has urged local media and the people to support the campaign to prevent the closure of hundreds of Indian restaurants. He has also launched a petition on the 10, Downing Street website.

"We are asking Her Majesty's government to force utility companies to reduce service costs and to abolish VAT for the businesses with a turnover of up to 95,000 pounds. We are being crippled with the harsh economic conditions and this is an urgent appeal for the owners of curry houses to safeguard the future of small businesses," it says.

The campaign calls for small companies with a turnover of 95,000 pounds or less to be exempt from VAT. Currently the limit is 67,000 pounds.

Taher said Indian restaurants were facing closure due to three crises that had hit at the same time.

The restaurants are being hit by the recession, like almost every other business. However, in the past year, the restaurants had been particularly affected by rises in the price of rice, oil and meat, plus new visa rules which have made it harder to hire chefs from overseas.

Taher has so far collected hundreds of signatures from people in the city backing his call, but has now mounted a nationwide, online petition which he hopes fans of Indian restaurants across Leicestershire, and the rest of the country, will support.

Sunny Kanda, who owns Saffron Spice in Leicester, said he feared the spiralling costs and falling numbers of diners would bankrupt his restaurant, while Syed Rahman, of Cuisine of India, said: "It's a really dreadful situation and we fear there is worse to come."

A government spokesman said the UK already had the highest VAT registration threshold in the European Union. He said: "All taxes and thresholds are kept under review."

The restaurant owners have also petitioned Labour MP Keith Vaz, for help to resolve immigration issues and to urge the government to scrap VAT to revive their business.


Regards

Hemingway

emsirrah Mar 22nd 2009 11:37 pm

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 
Quote
The restaurant owners have also petitioned Labour MP Keith Vaz, for help to resolve immigration issues and to urge the government to scrap VAT to revive their business.

I saw this the other day and read it open mouthed. :curse:


Let's see if Gordy and Vaz do more for these people than they are doing for the UK residents caught up in the Goa property fiasco.

johnny five Mar 22nd 2009 11:50 pm

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 
Can I point out a couple of things related to Hemingways post above?

1) A lot is made of restaurants operating in areas with a large "Asian" population, inferring this is due to the potential clientelle? Total hogwash. The average asian family is very unlikely to eat out in restaurants, Indian or other, any more than they would have done in their home country. There is not a tradition in India, Pakistan or Bangladesh of eating out at anything above the snack level. The cost of restaurant food is considered exhorbitant (correct), and "unclean" if cooked by someone of a lower caste (this is why so many Indian chefs come from the Brahmin caste) An asian family "do" is far more likely to involve the use of "caterers" - asian of course! The only thing different in an area with a large asian population is a plentiful supply of staff.

2) Its not surprising that "Indian" restaurants are closing, there are far too many. So many asian entrepreneurs have jumped on the bandwagon, buying up pubs and cafes to convert, that there is now a total glut throughout Britain. Combined with the recession and less money for eating out, as many as need be should be allowed to close - natural wastage. The Chinese, during their restaurant boom-time had the sense to see that dedicated take-aways with no seating, would survive better than expensive premises. The asian businessman, with his love of showiness, too much front, and the wealthy image, would always go for the impressive premises, even if, as I believe recent statistics prove, considerably more than 50% of his turn-over will be from take-aways. I am also sure that the innovation of "free delivery" has now become a curse. Several of our local "Indians" tried to drop the free delivery but had to re-instate it as trade dropped disastrously!

3) So why the need to employ chefs from abroad then?
We have a large asian population in the UK, surely some of them want to be chefs? Also, if all these restaurants are closing due to the recession, then why not recycle their redundant chefs?
I'll tell you why...........when a new chef is brought in from his home country, he can be paid a criminally low wage, just above the legal minimum, and to him it seems like a fortune. This low wage is then reduced further with deductions for living accommodation (a cupboard, shared), food allowance (leftovers), repayments on flight fares (exaggerated) etc. Of course, eventually the newbie realises he is being shafted but can do little about it until he is clear of debts. Even his asian colleagues will not put him right as they either went through the same and see it as some sort of initiation - we did it so why shouldnt he? Or they are "born in UK" and see themselves as something superior to the migrant, and believe me, they do!

And all that before we even get on to how the British are treated here :eek::eek:

noni Mar 22nd 2009 11:50 pm

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by emsirrah (Post 7409632)
Quote
The restaurant owners have also petitioned Labour MP Keith Vaz, for help to resolve immigration issues and to urge the government to scrap VAT to revive their business.

I saw this the other day and read it open mouthed. :curse:


Let's see if Gordy and Vaz do more for these people than they are doing for the UK residents caught up in the Goa property fiasco.


Hell Fire!:curse::curse: are WE supposed to be upset,
Gordy Milly and Vaz and their gang will not even give us the courtesy of a reply to our letters. :wub:

Goacrazy56 Mar 23rd 2009 1:36 am

Re: If you think that was bad read this
 
Well this just takes the biscuit,read and know we are total idiots in Britain My old mum is 80 and can't get her rent paid because dad left her a bit of money.It make me so:curse::curse:
http://www1.timesofindia.indiatimes....ow/4295564.cms

Goacrazy56 Mar 23rd 2009 1:42 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by noni (Post 7409668)
Hell Fire!:curse::curse: are WE supposed to be upset,
Gordy Milly and Vaz and their gang will not even give us the courtesy of a reply to our letters. :wub:

No point Noni getting upset we have to do what we normally do, take it lying down .IT'S WHAT'S EXPECTED OF THE BRITS:curse::curse:

emsirrah Mar 23rd 2009 3:00 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 
That's not a bad deal then - 18 month inside - do about 10 at the most for 50 grand - £5000 a month :curse:

hemingway Mar 23rd 2009 6:16 am

Wot, no Brit 'dregs' involved?
 
No, it appears not, only a nice Rusky, a teutonic Kraut & a sensible Swede - I don't believe it!

Copywright News Post Online & all that mullarky:

Panaji, March 23 (IANS) Three foreigners have been arrested for assaulting policemen trying to stop a rave party in a North Goa beach, the police said Monday.

The incident occurred at around 5.00 a.m. Sunday near Anjuna beach. The accused, arrested Sunday afternoon, were from Russia, Germany and Sweden.

Speaking to IANS, Superintendent of Police (North) Tony Fernandes said that the trio had been booked for playing loud music and assaulting police personnel.

“We received calls (about) a rave party at Ozrant, near Anjuna beach. When our team reached there, they were assaulted by the partying foreigners,” Fernandes said.

“Bottles were flung at our policemen and they were physically assaulted by a mob of party goers, which comprised of these three foreigners,” Fernandes said, adding that the police had to used batons to disperse the crowd that had assembled for the rave party.

Fernandes added the Goa Police would contact the state home ministry, seeking cancellation of the visas issued to the foreigners. “Assaulting police personnel is a serious crime,” Fernandes said.

The stretch of beach near Anjuna, along Goa’s northern coast, is a major hub for rave parties.


Regards

Hemingway!


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