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We spend quite a lot of time at Betalbatim and there is a lot of litter in the tree area behind the beach left by those dreadful Indian people having picnics. Providing bags will help. One shack was charging extra for beer to a group of students returned when they brought the bottles back.
But also looking more generally what about all the plastic toiletries brought in by Western tourists, shampoo bottles, suncream etc. etc. where does it all go? also the vast quantity of toilet paper used in a country where water cleansing is the norm.

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Well it certainly doesn't get liberally scattered around the environment by its users!

In fact, what a bl@@dy stupid attempt to distract from the real problem. If they don't bring these things with them then they will buy from the plentiful supply in Goan chemists and supermarkets. Traditionally they kindly give the remains to local girls, who traditionally throw the empty packaging wherever they traditionally throw their rubbish.

Maybe all foreign tourists (and a growing number of locals) should be forcibly banned from using toilet rolls and given a rubber glove and a bucket... or a pile of leaves.......... or best of all, print-outs of a certain person's idiotic, defensive posts :nod::nod::nod:


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Do you really think that the thousands of hotel tourists give their left over stuff to local girls??

Indian toilets that tourists are likely to use are fitted with a water hose for the purpose of cleaning. Those with any knowledge of India would know this. No different from a bidet.
Why not use it???

Yes garbage disposal is a problem that needs to be dealt with but all tourists add to the problem.

Defensive of what? I am a British tourist. When in Goa (not elsewhere) actually sometimes use toilet paper:o but always take home to UK empty plastics.

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It is a very common practice, Bipat. Any quarter, third bottles of whatever are left for cleaning staff, etc. Particularly these days when the charter baggage allowances are so small; every bit counts when trying to make room for the souvenirs!

Chameleons.

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Bipat, I find myself as bemused by your question as I was nearly 40 years ago when my landlord in Iran posted a note in the loo asking me to put toilet paper in the basket provided and not to flush it (loos in Teheran are/were built over a very deep soak pit).
Bemused because in both cases there seems to be an unexpected confusion about the actual use of toilet tissue - to be specific (!) it is the only method of cleansing used, not a secondary method (like a bidet) or for drying.
The only acceptable disposal is by flushing - and it is fully biodegradable - like sh!t.

AndyD 8-)₹

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A more than usually confused article in today's Herald about Visa on Arrival being allowed in Goa - it seems to imply that VoA may apply to UK visitors. This is most likely confusion but there have been a number of straws in the wind: VFS UK saying changes are imminent in the application process and several EU countries (some of which already have 30-day VoA) offering 5-year T visas with max. stay of 90 days (which is already the norm there).

AndyD 8-)₹

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Andy our house septic tank will not take tissue. When it is essential (one amputee visitor) it is burnt. No household that we stay in in India uses toilet paper. But why behave as Indian people???:ohmy:

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But it still means quantities of extra plastic brought into the country, my point is that it all adds garbage disposal problem that exists.

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Bipat went for a walk when i lived in Candolim upto the top of Porvorim plateau to admire the view.What i discovered and i still have to the photographs, was tons of rubbish dumped by Monarch, Thompsons and other chartered airlines. It was scattered all over the place.Food containers,magazines and plastic bottles.Plastic cutlery sets you name it. Its not just the tourists who do the dumping but Goans contracted to remove the stuff from Dabolim.

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99% rubbish left behind is "Indian Rubbish" I have only once seen a "whitie"
throw their fag packets, banana skins, and papers on the beach, and I embarrased them in front of all the other sunworshipers to pick up their rubbish and put in the shack bin.
Some Shack owners who throw rubbish in the bushes, ours burn their rubbish.
Indian Tourists are the worst culprits together with the local men on their picnics at the weekend, plastic, tins, broken bottles.

PJ - disgusting what you say about the airlines - they should be fined heavily.

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Noni I am not speaking only of visible rubbish but the general garbage problem. The waste produced by foreign tourists is vast. Just think of all the plastics they buy themselves in 'Boots' and the toilet tissue and nappies. Yes it is a problem that should be tackled by Goan Government but it is tourism in general.
And I agree, in North Goa it seems apparently to go with the general Indian 'chav' behaviour there.


(As an aside why are the British so virtuous in Goa but throw it all around in UK? living on a main road from town our front garden in UK always has takeaway, crisp packets etc. thrown in daily).

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Perhaps those who throw the litter in your garden are the uneducated ones, like those spitting chewing gum everywhere. Personally I would ban chewing gum in this country.

Goan Government tackle a problem to do with tourism - you are having a laugh :nod:

"Plastics they buy in "Boots" do you mean condoms. :sneaky:

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I do not know where you live Bipat but the village where I live in the UK is kept clean and tidy by the people who live here. If India wants foreign tourists and the money they bring then they need to do something about all the rubbish, tourists will always bring their own toiletries and even if they bought locally in Goa they would not carry them home with them and the plastic containers will need to be disposed of. This is just part of the cost of having the tourists there in the first place. The main plastic problem is the water bottles, European tourists can not drink the tap water or even clean their teeth with it so what would you suggest? Perhaps you could persuade the hotel owners to instal water purifiers in all their rooms.

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Perhaps those who throw the litter in your garden are the uneducated ones, like those spitting chewing gum everywhere. Personally I would ban chewing gum in this country.

Goan Government tackle a problem to do with tourism - you are having a laugh :nod:

"Plastics they buy in "Boots" do you mean condoms. :sneaky:[/QUOTE]

No, I hadn't thought of condoms! The rows of plastic containers on the holiday shelf; sun cream, hand cream, shampoo, packets of tissues ec. etc.
The average Indian woman would not buy so much. (They also use handkerchiefs or the end of a dupatta,!!)

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I live in a small town, the garbage is a disgrace when bins are available, but I see the same in all towns and cities. The villages of Norfolk my family home area are all clean (but still a few bottles on sand dunes in tourist areas).

I agree with all you have said about tourism and garbage systems.
The discussion above is about the idea that only Indian tourists create garbage.