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Old May 30th 2012, 10:25 am
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Surprise, surprise!

http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/Go...ail/story.html





Even if no foreigners were present, did the inevitable Goans or other Indians working there think this was acceptable?

The post mortem showed 20 unexplained cuts and bruises, which if the above description of the final event is true there must have been previous
?domestic violence and the likely responsible man known to others, including one would think, any of her personal friends.
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It is normal for almost any death, criminal activity and breach of law to be explained away like this. Today, almost everyone is threatened with the use of this label in all manner of confrontation and the risk is heightened when the aggressor is actually a criminal in cohoots with law enforcement during the normal course of carrying out his business. This one is one of the reasons many law abiding Goans literally hide behind drawn curtains.
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Can't help but wonder what part of Goa she died in and what beach shack the assault allegedly occurred in............and whether the beach shack was one of those mentioned in the case of Scarlett or in the case of the Russian girl found on Tivim railway line...........
Seems the Goan Police still can't learn from past mistakes - and I can't help but also wonder whether this is because of incompetence - or corruption !
It seems that even the basic enquiries are not being pursued when a foreigner dies in Goa.

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The post mortem showed 20 unexplained cuts and bruises, which if the above description of the final event is true there must have been previous
?domestic violence and the likely responsible man known to others, including one would think, any of her personal friends.
When my brother died in Goa 17 years ago in very mysterious circumstances the police insisted it was a natural causes and sent off the viscera to Hyderabad for forensic examination, as was normal in cases like my brothers. This is when things went very wrong. The tissue samples are packed in Formaldehyde, stored supposedly in a fridge and then removed under escort to Hyderabad.The whole process takes 6 months from collecting to analyzing. By the time they analyzed the samples they had decomposed and were worthless.
Certain chemicals should have shown up the tests and they didn't, so i knew the tests were just window dressing.However, things have changed in Goa and there should be photographs available to examine.But the longer it goes on the less chance you have of discovering exactly what went on in the shack as witnesses are warned off and the Indian tendency to back off when there are powerful people and the police involved in a case.Keep trying please but time is against you now.
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When my brother died in Goa 17 years ago in very mysterious circumstances the police insisted it was a natural causes and sent off the viscera to Hyderabad for forensic examination, as was normal in cases like my brothers. This is when things went very wrong. The tissue samples are packed in Formaldehyde, stored supposedly in a fridge and then removed under escort to Hyderabad.The whole process takes 6 months from collecting to analyzing. By the time they analyzed the samples they had decomposed and were worthless.
Certain chemicals should have shown up the tests and they didn't, so i knew the tests were just window dressing.However, things have changed in Goa and there should be photographs available to examine.But the longer it goes on the less chance you have of discovering exactly what went on in the shack as witnesses are warned off and the Indian tendency to back off when there are powerful people and the police involved in a case.Keep trying please but time is against you now.

OMG PJ I had no idea about your brother. You must feel a sense of injustice every time you see a repeat incompetent investigation reported in Goa. And IMO the devastation such incompetence leaves with the family, who have to battle for answers, and suffer the mental torture of wondering and wondering about what happened to their loved one, is inexcusable.

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Can't help but wonder what part of Goa she died in and what beach shack the assault allegedly occurred in............and whether the beach shack was one of those mentioned in the case of Scarlett or in the case of the Russian girl found on Tivim railway line...........
Seems the Goan Police still can't learn from past mistakes - and I can't help but also wonder whether this is because of incompetence - or corruption !
It seems that even the basic enquiries are not being pursued when a foreigner dies in Goa.

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This report gives a lot more detail of the case.
Presumably the man 'Alex' would have gone straight back to London, but there must be many people at the animal charity who could have given evidence if only they had been asked. Where he was staying etc. to get passport details. As you say basic enquiries.

http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/my...ail/story.html
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The Indian obsession with fairer skin sinks to a new low
23 May: The Age: (Australia). The Indian obsession with fair skin has always been a distasteful phenomenon. The fairness cream industry is gigantic, with men as well as women lathering these silly potions on their faces to make their skin a few shades lighter… Now an Indian company is airing a television ad for Clean & Dry Intimate Wash which not only promises to keep a woman's genitalia ''fresh'' but also lighten the skin around the vagina… 831 words + comments. click here.


For a video clip of the TV advert, click here.
www.goanvoice.org.uk. now I have read it all!

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General Strike: Goa Remains Shut, Tourists Stranded
31 May: PTI. Goa remained completely shut except for few buses plying on roads along with emergency services, in response to NDA's bandh call against the petrol price hike, sources said. Several tourists were seen stranded in the coastal belt as tourist taxis, private buses and even autorickshaws were off roads fearing attack by protestors. Police claimed that the strike was largely peaceful till noon

http://news.outlookindia.com/items.aspx?artid=764326

Petrol Prices May Be Revised on June 1

http://news.outlookindia.com/items.aspx?artid=764263
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[QUOTE=noni;10093167]The Indian obsession with fairer skin sinks to a new low
23 May: The Age: (Australia). The Indian obsession with fair skin has always been a distasteful phenomenon. The fairness cream industry is gigantic, with men as well as women lathering these silly potions on their faces to make their skin a few shades lighter… Now an Indian company is airing a television ad for Clean & Dry Intimate Wash which not only promises to keep a woman's genitalia ''fresh'' but also lighten the skin around the vagina… 831 words + comments. click here.


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I suppose much like the Western obsession with being 'orange' (Tony Blair), and all the tanning creams, sunbeds (the latter can be quite unsafe ).
Also the 'Brazilian' etc. People wanting to look what they are naturally not.
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<I suppose much like the Western obsession with being 'orange' (Tony Blair), and all the tanning creams, sunbeds (the latter can be quite unsafe ).
Also the 'Brazilian' etc. People wanting to look what they are naturally not.[/QUOTE]>

You have to be kidding! There is nothing remotely analogous to the tanning crowd. The Indian compulsion for whitening is actual contempt in their society bordering on bigotry and is reflected in centuries old casteism.
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< you have to be kidding! There is nothing remotely analogous to the tanning crowd. The Indian compulsion for whitening is actual contempt in their society bordering on bigotry and is reflected in centuries old casteism.
I disagree. These whitening creams are used across all classes (that can afford them). People think fair skin just looks 'nicer'.
Western people think tanned skin looks 'healthier'??? (or perhaps 'showing off' that you can afford a holiday in the sun.
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Quote - "It is really time for Indians to change their attitude towards their own skin. Just as African Americans launched a Black is Beautiful campaign in the US, so India needs a similar self-affirming movement. Fast"

Many of the girls I met in Goa, who were getting married used to stay out of the sun for weeks before the wedding as they wanted to look Wheaten!

One of the local Consultants goes to India once a year, and comes back whiter, the nurses have a giggle as the weeks pass and his colour starts coming back. Silly man! Be grateful whatever colour you are.

p.s. Nobody should be looking "down there" nuts, the lot of them.
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Quote - "It is really time for Indians to change their attitude towards their own skin. Just as African Americans launched a Black is Beautiful campaign in the US, so India needs a similar self-affirming movement. Fast"

Many of the girls I met in Goa, who were getting married used to stay out of the sun for weeks before the wedding as they wanted to look Wheaten!

One of the local Consultants goes to India once a year, and comes back whiter, the nurses have a giggle as the weeks pass and his colour starts coming back. Silly man! Be grateful whatever colour you are.

p.s. Nobody should be looking "down there" nuts, the lot of them.

Agree Noni, but is it really any different from the obsession with tanning??
Every woman's magazine in Uk has pages on the best way to get the perfect tan, before your holiday or wedding or whatever.

Do you read Femina magazine?? I found the article below (a little old but amusing).

http://beauty.femina.in/featured/nig...r-face.-really
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I am in no position to criticise! I am a 59yo grandfather and my appearance is still important to me, I still buy designer menswear, use aftershave balm along with other skincare products on a daily basis and am contemplating having my hair ''re-coloured''. I have a regular body wax as my vanity could not cope with grey chest hair and have only recently sold my soft top sports car. How far does my vanity extend? I remember taking the train on one occasion and paying full fare as opposed to a much discounted one because it meant showing my driving license and proving I was over 55, not possible as there was a very attractive young lady selling the tickets and I was no way confessing to being over 55!
Pathetic? Can't deny it. Pointless? Absolutely, perhaps I'll change when I'm older, no guarantees though.
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I am in no position to criticise! I am a 59yo grandfather and my appearance is still important to me, I still buy designer menswear, use aftershave balm along with other skincare products on a daily basis and am contemplating having my hair ''re-coloured''. I have a regular body wax as my vanity could not cope with grey chest hair and have only recently sold my soft top sports car. How far does my vanity extend? I remember taking the train on one occasion and paying full fare as opposed to a much discounted one because it meant showing my driving license and proving I was over 55, not possible as there was a very attractive young lady selling the tickets and I was no way confessing to being over 55!
Pathetic? Can't deny it. Pointless? Absolutely, perhaps I'll change when I'm older, no guarantees though.
Next year you can get your bus pass and your senior rail card they are really useful. I keep mine in student card holders!!
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I disagree. These whitening creams are used across all classes (that can afford them). People think fair skin just looks 'nicer'.
Western people think tanned skin looks 'healthier'??? (or perhaps 'showing off' that you can afford a holiday in the sun.
Not for the first time Bipat, you have chosen to ignore the focused discussion here.......

We are not talking about the mass of "whitening creams" available to the ignorant masses in India, male and female, to endow them with the much desired "wheaten" complexion.

This is a very dedicated product claiming to whiten a specific part of a laydee's anatomy........ in isolation!

In my day job as a gardener I am dreading the next time Mrs Client asks for a white bush. My usual recommendations of various Spirea, or a dwarf lilac will loose the battle with rising hysterical laughter.

So, if it does actually do what it says on the can, the result is mind boggling...... an overall darkish laydee with a snowy white ****? Useful in powercuts I suppose, when the romance looms?

Your analogy with fake tanning in the west cracked me up (oops sorry ), if you hadn't disappeared into generalisations, then the concept of such a specific toning table would have appeared laughable. Would one mask off the desired area?

Anyway lets not fanny around with this any further.......... Steve, you sound absolutely lovely, good for you with the anti-ageing sweetie Would advise against using these creams and potions "down there" though


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