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a_f_d Feb 29th 2012 11:51 pm

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by a_f_d (Post 9929277)
... or ask any bar / shack/ restaurant/ shop owner on the coast if he's pleased to see all these extra desi tourists!

AndyD 8-)#

I am having a lot of trouble replying to posts here - I click 'Post Quick Reply' and the hamster wheel just keeps whirring. If I copy my reply, refresh the page, paste reply and re-click it works.
Anyone else having problems? I'm using Firefox.
OTOH maybe I'm being monitored, there have been several black helicopters around in the last week!!!

Bipat Mar 1st 2012 12:09 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by k800mer (Post 9929258)
You just need to read the letters and comments in the daily newspapers available here in Goa to see that Goans consider themselves to be different to other Indians.

I was answering Andy's post stating "Never was" I was speaking of pre-Portuguese 'Goans' and also their descendants who left.

a_f_d Mar 1st 2012 12:24 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 9929317)
I was answering Andy's post stating "Never was" I was speaking of pre-Portuguese 'Goans' and also their descendants who left.


pre-Portuguese 'Goans'
I think you need more than one pair of single quotes around that phrase Bipat.

AndyD 8-)#

Bipat Mar 1st 2012 1:56 am

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Originally Posted by a_f_d (Post 9929345)
I think you need more than one pair of single quotes around that phrase Bipat.

AndyD 8-)#

I didn't know what else to call them for the purpose of this Forum.

a_f_d Mar 1st 2012 3:21 am

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Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 9929492)
I didn't know what else to call them for the purpose of this Forum.

... a group of mixed ethnicity resulting from successive waves of invasion retaining vestiges of Sumerian agro-economy, ruled by Buddhists of Greco-Persian decent, comparatively recently forcibly converted to Islam?

AndyD 8-)#

noni Mar 1st 2012 5:33 am

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http://ibnlive.in.com/news/goa-expat...65-37-170.html

By Mayabhushan Nagvenkar. Goan expats are calling for a "total change of blood" in Goa's political system ahead of assembly elections on Saturday… Carmen Miranda of Britain, describes the incumbent government in Goa in four words: "Despicable, irresponsible, incompetent and criminal"… Frankey Fernandes a news producer with Radio Adelaide claims there's simply no "messiah" on Goa's political horizon… In California, engineer and musician Rajan Parrikar is seething with rage against the political establishment… Britain-based writer Selma Carvalho has a more circumspect view, adding the Congress-led alliance government has "desired to partner with the public" and "listen" to them on critical issues…

Bipat Mar 1st 2012 5:51 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by a_f_d (Post 9929647)
... a group of mixed ethnicity resulting from successive waves of invasion retaining vestiges of Sumerian agro-economy, ruled by Buddhists of Greco-Persian decent, comparatively recently forcibly converted to Islam?

AndyD 8-)#

I was thinking of the ordinary population of Hindu Konkani speaking people the descendants of which still trek there from elsewhere, to the temples in Goa and pay their dues (cash).
(Can't remember the original point??); oh yes they think of themselves as 'Indians'. (and make derogatory remarks about Goans). :)
Back to News Topics.

Bipat Mar 1st 2012 6:00 am

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Originally Posted by noni (Post 9929898)
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/goa-expat...65-37-170.html

By Mayabhushan Nagvenkar. Goan expats are calling for a "total change of blood" in Goa's political system ahead of assembly elections on Saturday… Carmen Miranda of Britain, describes the incumbent government in Goa in four words: "Despicable, irresponsible, incompetent and criminal"… Frankey Fernandes a news producer with Radio Adelaide claims there's simply no "messiah" on Goa's political horizon… In California, engineer and musician Rajan Parrikar is seething with rage against the political establishment… Britain-based writer Selma Carvalho has a more circumspect view, adding the Congress-led alliance government has "desired to partner with the public" and "listen" to them on critical issues…


Congress "listen to the public" ????????

k800mer Mar 1st 2012 6:33 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 9929317)
I was answering Andy's post stating "Never was" I was speaking of pre-Portuguese 'Goans' and also their descendants who left.

How long were the Portuguese here in Goa? You are talking ancient history, why would people whose ancestors have not lived in Goa for hundreds of years consider themselves Goan.

noni Mar 1st 2012 7:50 am

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Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 9929942)
Congress "listen to the public" ????????

Does any party listen to any one!

Bipat Mar 1st 2012 8:07 am

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Originally Posted by k800mer (Post 9930012)
How long were the Portuguese here in Goa? You are talking ancient history, why would people whose ancestors have not lived in Goa for hundreds of years consider themselves Goan.

I think you have missed the point of the discussion. Andy said that the (area of land now called Goa) was "never like the rest of India" my argument was that for the Hindu population of that time it once was.

They didn't all leave, and those that did, many left gradually over the years, not all of them at once!!

Those that now return to their family temples, don't consider themselves 'Goan'. (They would be horrified at the thought) but they still have a connection with that area of land. As I said they still contribute.

In the time of the Portuguese for some of the time there was free movement over the border, it wasn't 'cut off ' from the rest of India. OH still remembers the excitement of childhood trips by bus to the temples.

dreadsoc Mar 1st 2012 8:58 am

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Originally Posted by noni (Post 9929055)
Police officer shot in the face by Raoul Moat found dead at home days after sending worrying tweet: 'RIP PC Rathband'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1nr6qaXr3

So sad and he was only doing his job.

Very very sad indeed

Dread - x

Tina1 Mar 1st 2012 9:03 am

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Originally Posted by dreadsoc (Post 9930273)
Very very sad indeed

Dread - x

I agree. What a sad end for a very brave man.

johnny five Mar 1st 2012 9:54 am

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[QUOTE=k800mer;9930012 why would people whose ancestors have not lived in Goa for hundreds of years consider themselves Goan.[/QUOTE]

Because there might be money in it?


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johnny five Mar 1st 2012 10:03 am

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Originally Posted by Tina1 (Post 9930286)
I agree. What a sad end for a very brave man.

Yes, brave in the way he dealt with his life after the shooting, but.........

He was constantly referred to as an "hero", but..........

He was sitting in his patrol car minding his own business when Mr Moat fetched up and shot him, unfortunate in the extreme, but........

Not an heroic act, just seriously bad luck.


Could it be that, over the months since, the repeated acclaim of being an hero was a factor that drove him to suicide??

Think on it..


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