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noni Feb 26th 2012 7:27 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by dreadsoc (Post 9922044)
Well the UK has gone mad anyway !
I couldn't care less what race,religion, colour, or whatever anyone is. However I have seen ID cards, driving licences and passports belonging to Moslem women where they have their faces covered with the jihab in the photograph. This has allowed them to obtain multiple NI numbers and to make multiple benefit claims in different variations of their names and birth dates.

As a tax payer in the UK I take real exception to this!

Dread - x

Totally agree with you Dread - all the crap we have to put up with our Muslim friends, jihab should be banned in this country, on passports, visa's etc!!! It is our country, our safety, either obey the rules of the country or leave.

In to-days papers we have this:

We should NOT have apologised for Koran burning, says Santorum as another seven Americans are hurt in Afghan protest violence

The Republican presidential hopeful added that Afghanistan should apologise to the U.S. for the deaths of four U.S. soldiers


Hate preacher Abu Qatada will cost us £5m-a-year... that's 100 times the cost of keeping him in jailMammoth surveillance operation costing £100,000 a week
MI5 and police officers follow him on foot when he leaves home
Phone listener and 24 hour translator on hand to intercept calls


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1nWPoEWBl

Disgusting, kick him out.

Bipat Feb 26th 2012 7:36 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by dreadsoc (Post 9922044)
Well the UK has gone mad anyway !
I couldn't care less what race,religion, colour, or whatever anyone is. However I have seen ID cards, driving licences and passports belonging to Moslem women where they have their faces covered with the jihab in the photograph. This has allowed them to obtain multiple NI numbers and to make multiple benefit claims in different variations of their names and birth dates.

As a tax payer in the UK I take real exception to this!

Dread - x

How is this possible Dread ? surely a photograph with face covered would be rejected by passport office, DVLA etc.?
A hijab being a headscarf leaves the face uncovered?
I agree that face should never be fully covered in banks, shops etc.

I think also the lesson is "never make a joke at security at an airport", there have been people arrested in USA for making 'bomb' jokes.

Bipat Feb 26th 2012 7:52 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by noni (Post 9922065)
Totally agree with you Dread - all the crap we have to put up with our Muslim friends, jihab should be banned in this country, on passports, visa's etc!!! It is our country, our safety, either obey the rules of the country or leave.

In to-days papers we have this:

We should NOT have apologised for Koran burning, says Santorum as another seven Americans are hurt in Afghan protest violence

The Republican presidential hopeful added that Afghanistan should apologise to the U.S. for the deaths of four U.S. soldiers


Hate preacher Abu Qatada will cost us £5m-a-year... that's 100 times the cost of keeping him in jailMammoth surveillance operation costing £100,000 a week
MI5 and police officers follow him on foot when he leaves home
Phone listener and 24 hour translator on hand to intercept calls


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1nWPoEWBl

Disgusting, kick him out.

Noni it is actually their country too, if they are British.
Yes obviously the face should not be covered on official documents I can't understand how such a photograph would be accepted.
I dont think you can ban headscarves as such (Hijab).
The Queen likes them!:D
As to Abu Qatada I think the Home Secretary is doing her best, it depends on Jordan convincing the European court he will get a fair trial.

dreadsoc Feb 26th 2012 8:09 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 9922074)
How is this possible Dread ? surely a photograph with face covered would be rejected by passport office, DVLA etc.?
A hijab being a headscarf leaves the face uncovered?
I agree that face should never be fully covered in banks, shops etc.

I think also the lesson is "never make a joke at security at an airport", there have been people arrested in USA for making 'bomb' jokes.


Apologies - use of wrong term - instead of jihab, read abeyah or bhurka.

Bipat I have news for you............they do not get rejected by UKPA or anywhere else. Often as well these people have immigration status for full asylum and a foreign passport, but because of having indefinite leave to remain, or having leave to remain without restrictions, they have entitlement to NI numbers and benefits whilst they apply for citizenship.

Dread - x

noni Feb 26th 2012 9:09 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 9922090)
Noni it is actually their country too, if they are British.
Yes obviously the face should not be covered on official documents I can't understand how such a photograph would be accepted.
I dont think you can ban headscarves as such (Hijab).
The Queen likes them!:D
As to Abu Qatada I think the Home Secretary is doing her best, it depends on Jordan convincing the European court he will get a fair trial.

Apologies Bipat, my mind is not quite with it. I meant the veil, you say it is their counry too, I agree, but they should not wear them here. Also we should not have to bow down to them, and their religion.

Even a headscarves are dangerous when driving, as you cannot see out of the corner of your eye if it inadvertantly moves. So if the Queen was driving I would also tell her it is dangerous.

As for AbuQatada, just send him home, never mind the consequences, he made his choice and has to live with it. Our children's security is far more important that this guy.

noni Feb 26th 2012 9:10 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by dreadsoc (Post 9922123)
Apologies - use of wrong term - instead of jihab, read abeyah or bhurka.

Bipat I have news for you............they do not get rejected by UKPA or anywhere else. Often as well these people have immigration status for full asylum and a foreign passport, but because of having indefinite leave to remain, or having leave to remain without restrictions, they have entitlement to NI numbers and benefits whilst they apply for citizenship.

Dread - x

and the benefits far outway what UK citizens get.

Bipat Feb 26th 2012 9:20 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by noni (Post 9922209)
As for AbuQatada, just send him home, never mind the consequences, he made his choice and has to live with it. Our children's security is far more important that this guy.

It is not his importance, it is the consequence of going against the European Court. We have signed up to the European Convention it is not possible to pick and choose when to follow the judgement. (I agree the Convention needs updating and amending).

dreadsoc Feb 26th 2012 10:35 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 9922220)
It is not his importance, it is the consequence of going against the European Court. We have signed up to the European Convention it is not possible to pick and choose when to follow the judgement. (I agree the Convention needs updating and amending).

I do find it rather ironic that the UK cannot deport people like Abu Qatada and others of his hate preaching ilk, yet the governments of France and Germany and other European countries don;t hesitate to deport undesirables, regardless of what countries they are returning to.
B-Liar forced the Human Rights Act via back door policies when it was not needed in the UK - the only difference it made in the Uk was to disable our ability to deport people - statute laws already existed covering all the other 'freedoms' listed in the act.
If I were a cynic, I might wonder what the point was - after all Cheri B-Liar was a human rights specialist lawyer and made millions out of the HR Act ........... :frown::thumbdown:

Dread - x

fatbrit Feb 26th 2012 10:42 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by dreadsoc (Post 9922313)
I do find it rather ironic that the UK cannot deport people like Abu Qatada and others of his hate preaching ilk, yet the governments of France and Germany and other European countries don;t hesitate to deport undesirables, regardless of what countries they are returning to.
B-Liar forced the Human Rights Act via back door policies when it was not needed in the UK - the only difference it made in the Uk was to disable our ability to deport people - statute laws already existed covering all the other 'freedoms' listed in the act.
If I were a cynic, I might wonder what the point was - after all Cheri B-Liar was a human rights specialist lawyer and made millions out of the HR Act ........... :frown::thumbdown:

Dread - x

http://www.liberty-human-rights.org....yths/index.php

wallydug Feb 26th 2012 5:10 pm

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by dreadsoc (Post 9922044)
Well the UK has gone mad anyway !
I couldn't care less what race,religion, colour, or whatever anyone is. However I have seen ID cards, driving licences and passports belonging to Moslem women where they have their faces covered with the jihab in the photograph. This has allowed them to obtain multiple NI numbers and to make multiple benefit claims in different variations of their names and birth dates.

As a tax payer in the UK I take real exception to this!

Dread - x

I find this so hard to believe.

Are we that f*****g stupid?

Impossible.

Can't be true.

You're extracting the urine, Dread.

W.

noni Feb 26th 2012 6:02 pm

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 
Yes we are that ........ stupid and she is not taking the ....
:thumbdown:


Just been reading this http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=749500
Living & Moving Abroad/ Europe/ Spain/ Plaza de Toros /

Are any 'racist' phrases/words acceptable in PC 21stC?

how come in this forum they can have 218 replies, without somebody complaining and the thread stopped, one or two posts on here and BOOM! Can't stand all this PC rubbish.

Bipat Feb 26th 2012 6:51 pm

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by noni (Post 9922718)
Yes we are that ........ stupid and she is not taking the ....
:thumbdown:


Just been reading this http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=749500
Living & Moving Abroad/ Europe/ Spain/ Plaza de Toros /

Are any 'racist' phrases/words acceptable in PC 21stC?

how come in this forum they can have 218 replies, without somebody complaining and the thread stopped, one or two posts on here and BOOM! Can't stand all this PC rubbish.

Because there is a big difference between discussing possible racist words and expressing racist attitudes.

IndianFriend Feb 26th 2012 8:22 pm

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by dreadsoc (Post 9922044)
As a tax payer in the UK I take real exception to this!

Dread - x

Dread, now see this :

"George Osborne: UK has run out of money"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...-of-money.html

johnny five Feb 26th 2012 9:54 pm

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 9922764)
Because there is a big difference between discussing possible racist words and expressing racist attitudes.

But no difference in the self-righteous preachers that popped up on this forum when the subject was aired!

Please, lets get back to news items or we will have another invasion of the moralistic body-snatchers. :eek:

Out of curiosity, is there a facility on this forum for notification when a certain word or subject appears anywhere in the BE world? Just seems strange that the same group kicks in straight away, innit?


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noni Feb 27th 2012 5:21 am

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Is India a good place to retire?

26 Feb: The Sunday Times (UK). By Sally Howard. What's life really like for Britons retiring in India? On the face of it, the appeal is obvious: 20c curries, top-notch healthcare and reliable sun. But so too are the downsides: poverty and potholes; bleating horns and baffling bureaucracy… John Phimister, 72, is a retired salad farmer from London, but now lives in Siolim with his Indian wife, Babi, 52, and their sons Malcolm, 24, and David, 19… In December, a group of European retirees living in Goa petitioned the government to create a special visa category for the over-55s… Delhibased property developer Sumeet Bhalla is raising capital for a string of garden retirement homes across India, with on-site medical care. "One of our key target sectors is the overseas market," he tells me, "initially British NRIs living in the UK." …

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NO SPECIAL STATUS FOR GOA

27 Feb: IBNS. Taking a U-turn on bestowing a special status to Goa, Congress on Monday said that no new states will be added to the special state status category… The statement is a stark contradiction to what UPA Chairperson and Congress President Sonia Gandhi assured in a rally in December 2011

www.goanvoice.org.uk


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