Hi Dicky,

Tell them you will take it to the papers and expose them for what there doing on FNs. It might work as from a business point of view they wouldnt want any 'bad' publicity.

Regards,
Remy

You have read my mind.... al part of "phase 2"!!!!!

Hi Bryson 7,

The goal posts dont keep moving, with the exception of visa issue. With regard to FEMA , bank accounts, businesses owned by FNs, they are unchanged, so there is no excuse for non compliance.

When i read the HCI press release and FEMA it tells me that FNs are not welcome in india, it doesnt say to me come here en masse and flout our laws.

In the case of flowermoon and others, what is confusing about my statements on these matters, direct and to the point is more my style. Nobody i have challenged has yet come back to me and said please clarify this point or that, responses are usually, i dont want to hear what you are saying. There is a significant difference .

regards
douglas

Remy

Sorry should have attached a quote the first time. I would be interested if there is anybody out there in a similar position to me i.e. paid a hefty deposit to Churchills and then got cold feet / had a reality check. A pincer attack may get my cash back quicker.
I am suprised that Churchills are not keen to get me paid off in swift order as I can only be bringing them bad press. if I lose any money this bad press is just the beginning.

Regards

Dicky

Hi Dicky - why don't you start a Churchills thread, and see what response you get?

Hi Flowermoon - welcome -

We have a beautiful apartment in Goa - for 6 years we have been happily going out there for a few months at a time, loving every minute, happy as a sandboys, until one day last season we came home from the beach and there was THE letter from the Directorate of Enforcement. Have you seen one of these letters? :curse:
We paid for the Apartment through the correct banking channels, done the requisite number of days in the financial year. 5 year x visa etc. and our Sale Deeds had been registered. It came as a terrible shock to us. We had 15 days (I think to respond) it is in the hands of our Advocate, we supplied all the details they required in triplicate, and eight months later are still waiting for the outcome. It is very worrying.
Until this happened I was like you "living the dream" in a happy laid back Goan bubble.

We have been going to Goa since the early 90's, and loved the people and the culture.

Do you mind me asking have you actually registered your Deeds? and what visa do you currently hold? have you tried renewing it this year? Our five year was up but they would only give us a 2 year (charged the same as five year)
I get completely confused but haven't I read somewhere that if you have a rolling lease after five years you have got to do the 182 days? or is it another of those undefined rules.

Lets hope we can still keep living the dream and enjoy our time in Goa.

Noni

Hi Douglas,
Sorry, perhaps I should have said " depending on how the local official dealing with you sees the law" and not goal posts moving.
Regards
Bryson

Hi Dicky

Do I read this right - you handed over 12 grand and do not have any paperwork?

Old man

Hi Old Man

Not quite as bad as that. I do have some receipts refering to "non refundable deposits for my investment in Goa". I returned the final contracts un signed as I no longer felt comfortable with the onwership issues for FNs in Goa.
Had I completed the purchase I would have a sales agreement with Churchills and still effectively be in the same situation regard to ownership... none!
It will be interesting to see if Churchills now "re-sell" my property as they have promised to do in numerous Email comunications.
The main problem I have is what to do if Churchills wish me well, tell me to get stuffed and fail to return my investment. Lets face it there are far less elaborate scams out there. In the mean time I am airing my views and concerns on this site and keeping my fingers crossed.

regards

Dicky

Hi dicky,

Bloody Hell mate - don't like the bit "non refundable deposit".

Think we should right to one of these holiday programmes on TV.
Regards Old Man

Hi Old Man

Not just me caught by this one. Everybody who buys from Churchills, ACRON etc buys either a rental or a sales agreement...... not a freehold or even a descent lease. If I don't get my deposit back i will personally flood the newspapers, TV consumer programs and the internet to expose what may be going on.

Regards
Dicky

Hi Bryson 7,

I will certainly accept that one , the individual FN could be technically correct in law and yet still fall foul of the authorities because of the individual officers incompetence, or even deliberate misinterpretation by the officer concerned.

That happened to me several times, just one more reason not to go there.

regards
douglas

Hi Douglas
I think every air ticket to Goa or should I say India, should have a "Wealth Warning" on the back of them referring the holders to yours and Babul I Posts on the Expat Forum.
Regards
Bryson

Hi Bryson7,

I agree , a warning should be printed on every agreement to sale and lease too and if you are an acronite you should have to sign to say that you have read it and understand it and your statement should be in triplicate and notarised and fingerprinted in true indian style.

Your fathers name should also be stated and he should sign to say that he knows you and that you are of sound mind and there should be lots of stamping, thats very important, lots of stamping and scrutinising.

Arent Babuls 1s posts just great, if douglas was a sun reporter then Babul 1 would be from the news of the world


regards
douglas

Hi Dicky
Will you please put your story on the Churchill site I set up for you.
You and your position with Churchill's may have got lost in the Acron site. People may answer you on a Churchill site. Your quarrel is with C not Acron - is that right?

Regards
Noni

Noni

Wilco. As you say nothing to do with ACRON as i am sure they are squeaky clean. My gripe is with Churchill: note yet a quarrel as they say they are selling my apartment for me ( I just have my doubts); but as Douglas points out, how can they sell something I didn't own. I will put my thoughts together and put a story on the Churchill thread you set up.

Thanks for your help

Dicky