Road to a Grecian turn?
Jul 3rd 2015, 11:32 am
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Re: Road to a Grecian turn?
I was sticking my neck out on the matter of Varoufakis resigning his post as Finance Minister in the event of the referendum being held and the result being Yes.
He will, of course, remain a Member of Parliament.
Mike, I think, was being a little more enigmatic (weren't you, Mike?)
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Jul 3rd 2015, 11:47 am
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Re: Road to a Grecian turn?
Neither of us is sticking our neck out on the result of the referendum (or even whether it will be held) - are we Mike? I think that's one more thing we can agree on.
I was sticking my neck out on the matter of Varoufakis resigning his post as Finance Minister in the event of the referendum being held and the result being Yes.
He will, of course, remain a Member of Parliament.
Mike, I think, was being a little more enigmatic (weren't you, Mike?)
I was sticking my neck out on the matter of Varoufakis resigning his post as Finance Minister in the event of the referendum being held and the result being Yes.
He will, of course, remain a Member of Parliament.
Mike, I think, was being a little more enigmatic (weren't you, Mike?)
Enigmatic - I'll go for that!
Jul 3rd 2015, 11:52 am
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Jul 3rd 2015, 12:11 pm
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Re: Road to a Grecian turn?
Yes, that's right. The government has a Ministry for Printing Posters, which looks after all official demo materials. If you wave anything not officially approved you get slung in prison.
Jul 3rd 2015, 12:23 pm
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Re: Road to a Grecian turn?
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Jul 3rd 2015, 6:23 pm
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Re: Road to a Grecian turn?
I'm not sure that is true Eric? However, they have set up an expensive tax-payer funded TV station to spread the gospel according to Syriza, which I note is pretty much standard operating practice for a totalitarian regime, so the Abusive Poster Printing Ministry may be next on their list .
.ERT, the public service broadcaster, is the only impartial service and in fact when the government resurrected it (albeit in a slimmed-down form), it was the personnel hired under previous governments who were re-hired, neatly avoiding any possibility of accusations of pro-government bias (apart from in the perpetually determined. Broadcasting parliamentary debates live isn't bias, for reasons obvious to all).
This government also introduced a law to licence and tax private broadcasters as opposed to operating on free licences handed out in return for doing previous governments' bidding, and to end other little favours to these companies (like enjoying free electricity), thus bringing Greece into line with most other developed nations.
For totalitarian-like actions, you might want to look at the doings of the previous governments which found it necessary to erect barriers around the parliament building and to pass laws to prevent demonstrations outside. Those fences are now gone and peaceful protest encouraged - indeed the speaker of the house left her seat to remonstrate with over-zealous riot police who were preventing a recent protest by pensioners from passing by.
Jul 3rd 2015, 8:17 pm
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Re: Road to a Grecian turn?
Well at least the taxpayers are getting something for their money now - they were paying for public service broadcasting via a levy on electricity bills (one of several "extras" charged in this way), until a previous government closed down the broadcaster. Strangely, though, the levy remained.
ERT, the public service broadcaster, is the only impartial service and in fact when the government resurrected it (albeit in a slimmed-down form), it was the personnel hired under previous governments who were re-hired, neatly avoiding any possibility of accusations of pro-government bias (apart from in the perpetually determined. Broadcasting parliamentary debates live isn't bias, for reasons obvious to all).
This government also introduced a law to licence and tax private broadcasters as opposed to operating on free licences handed out in return for doing previous governments' bidding, and to end other little favours to these companies (like enjoying free electricity), thus bringing Greece into line with most other developed nations.
For totalitarian-like actions, you might want to look at the doings of the previous governments which found it necessary to erect barriers around the parliament building and to pass laws to prevent demonstrations outside. Those fences are now gone and peaceful protest encouraged - indeed the speaker of the house left her seat to remonstrate with over-zealous riot police who were preventing a recent protest by pensioners from passing by.
ERT, the public service broadcaster, is the only impartial service and in fact when the government resurrected it (albeit in a slimmed-down form), it was the personnel hired under previous governments who were re-hired, neatly avoiding any possibility of accusations of pro-government bias (apart from in the perpetually determined. Broadcasting parliamentary debates live isn't bias, for reasons obvious to all).
This government also introduced a law to licence and tax private broadcasters as opposed to operating on free licences handed out in return for doing previous governments' bidding, and to end other little favours to these companies (like enjoying free electricity), thus bringing Greece into line with most other developed nations.
For totalitarian-like actions, you might want to look at the doings of the previous governments which found it necessary to erect barriers around the parliament building and to pass laws to prevent demonstrations outside. Those fences are now gone and peaceful protest encouraged - indeed the speaker of the house left her seat to remonstrate with over-zealous riot police who were preventing a recent protest by pensioners from passing by.
l see Varoufakis has been caught lying about their being negotiations in progress, he really can't stop himself can he?
Jul 4th 2015, 1:57 am
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Re: Road to a Grecian turn?
"We have smashed the printing presses, cannot print Drachma" says Varoufakis
This incredible story has just surfaced. Note the "we" in his admission. He does not say when they were destroyed, presumably quite recently. The man is a lunatic and doing this as FinMin he should probably be locked up. Does Tsipras keep Varoufakis to protect himself, like some people keep a pitbull?
This incredible story has just surfaced. Note the "we" in his admission. He does not say when they were destroyed, presumably quite recently. The man is a lunatic and doing this as FinMin he should probably be locked up. Does Tsipras keep Varoufakis to protect himself, like some people keep a pitbull?
Jul 4th 2015, 6:50 am
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Re: Road to a Grecian turn?
Probably a fudge of sorts will be agreed, but Troika hands are tied somewhat.
A. Troika twists and accepts Syriza demands for unilateral debt reduction (restructuring) and no further austerity, giving the green flag and momentum to the likes of Podemos, Livre and Five Star. Add Le Pen to the mix too.
B. Troika sticks and risks further Greek default mid-July, and the vast swathes of sovereign CDO / CDS (insurance on bad debt) payouts, and its knock-on effects. Remember this is the country that cooked the books using covert Goldman Sachs 'financial weapons of mass destruction' in applying to join the Eurozone in the first place. Brussels either gave it the Nelson or was blissfully unaware.
It's an almighty mess.
A. Troika twists and accepts Syriza demands for unilateral debt reduction (restructuring) and no further austerity, giving the green flag and momentum to the likes of Podemos, Livre and Five Star. Add Le Pen to the mix too.
B. Troika sticks and risks further Greek default mid-July, and the vast swathes of sovereign CDO / CDS (insurance on bad debt) payouts, and its knock-on effects. Remember this is the country that cooked the books using covert Goldman Sachs 'financial weapons of mass destruction' in applying to join the Eurozone in the first place. Brussels either gave it the Nelson or was blissfully unaware.
It's an almighty mess.
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Jul 4th 2015, 6:57 am
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Re: Road to a Grecian turn?
"We have smashed the printing presses, cannot print Drachma" says Varoufakis
This incredible story has just surfaced. Note the "we" in his admission. He does not say when they were destroyed, presumably quite recently. The man is a lunatic and doing this as FinMin he should probably be locked up. Does Tsipras keep Varoufakis to protect himself, like some people keep a pitbull?
This incredible story has just surfaced. Note the "we" in his admission. He does not say when they were destroyed, presumably quite recently. The man is a lunatic and doing this as FinMin he should probably be locked up. Does Tsipras keep Varoufakis to protect himself, like some people keep a pitbull?
Jul 4th 2015, 1:14 pm
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Re: Road to a Grecian turn?
Varoufakis was then the Commission's catspaw in the defenestration of Papandreou- at the same time as they forced Berlusconi out. Ironic that the Commission is now bent of getting rid of Varoufakis.
The overthrow of three democratically elected Governments in four years does leave one wondering what Brussels will do should Britain indeed vote to leave the EU
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Jul 4th 2015, 4:33 pm
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Re: Road to a Grecian turn?
"We have smashed the printing presses, cannot print Drachma" says Varoufakis
This incredible story has just surfaced. Note the "we" in his admission. He does not say when they were destroyed, presumably quite recently. The man is a lunatic and doing this as FinMin he should probably be locked up. Does Tsipras keep Varoufakis to protect himself, like some people keep a pitbull?
This incredible story has just surfaced. Note the "we" in his admission. He does not say when they were destroyed, presumably quite recently. The man is a lunatic and doing this as FinMin he should probably be locked up. Does Tsipras keep Varoufakis to protect himself, like some people keep a pitbull?
I see he didn't insult anyone again today merely called the creditor's terrorists (which in the parallel universe isn't an insult apparently).
He can't be trusted to run a bath and would be out of his depth in a puddle - the sooner this odious imbecile is replaced the sooner things have a chance of getting better for the people of Greece.
Jul 4th 2015, 5:24 pm
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Re: Road to a Grecian turn?
"We have smashed the printing presses, cannot print Drachma" says Varoufakis
This incredible story has just surfaced. Note the "we" in his admission. He does not say when they were destroyed, presumably quite recently. The man is a lunatic and doing this as FinMin he should probably be locked up. Does Tsipras keep Varoufakis to protect himself, like some people keep a pitbull?
This incredible story has just surfaced. Note the "we" in his admission. He does not say when they were destroyed, presumably quite recently. The man is a lunatic and doing this as FinMin he should probably be locked up. Does Tsipras keep Varoufakis to protect himself, like some people keep a pitbull?
Honestly fellas - where do you get this stuff from? And is your Google finger broken or something?