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JamesM May 10th 2010 6:14 am

Re: UK Elections
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8555951)
From a political neutral point of view I have to wonder what Clegg is playing at. His long term goal is voting reform so that the lib dems will get more of a say in parliament. However he has that say right now and therefore has an opportunity to show that it can work. If he screws it up I don't think people will be impressed and screwing it up appears to be exactly what he is doing. Given that the polls suggested a hung parliament ages ago you'd think he'd have the various scenarios planned out.

In total agreement. This must of been the best case scenario for the Lib Dem's so they now have their chance to shine.

Alan2005 May 10th 2010 6:19 am

Re: UK Elections
 

Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 8555967)
In total agreement. This must of been the best case scenario for the Lib Dem's so they now have their chance to shine.

My reading of the result was that the electorate had had enough of labour, but weren't quite willing to trust the tories without some kind of check. I suspect he'll be punished quite badly next time if he goes into a Lab/LD coalition after saying he wouldn't. It won't last either as they won't have a majority without getting the scots and welsh crack pot parties involved.

JamesM May 10th 2010 6:27 am

Re: UK Elections
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8555976)
My reading of the result was that the electorate had had enough of labour, but weren't quite willing to trust the tories without some kind of check. I suspect he'll be punished quite badly next time if he goes into a Lab/LD coalition after saying he wouldn't. It won't last either as they won't have a majority without getting the scots and welsh crack pot parties involved.

I was surprised the Lib Dem's lost seats.

Only because according to the various online media sources they had done so well in the TV debates.

Again according to my father if in certain key areas UKIP votes had gone to the Conservatives they would have done just about enough. I have not really looked at the results that closely.

From a purely selfish respect I think an outright Conservative victory would probably have given the exchange rate more of a boost due to planning more aggressive spending cuts.

Other than that I am enjoying watching the history be created.

Canuck2b May 10th 2010 6:37 am

Re: UK Elections
 
It's not been a fair count anyway. There were masses of queues around the country with people being turned away at 10pm to begin the count!

I think voters didnt have a clue who to vote this year and all scrambled out to vote last minute, then ended up not getting to vote! :ohmy:

airbornesapper May 10th 2010 7:09 am

Re: UK Elections
 
Make it stop....after years of whining on by all and sundry about how New Labour (whatever that is) wrecked the UK (the massive un controlled influx form the EU) the Brit populace gets its just rewards.

Whoever ends up running the show, rest assured it will be more of the same old bollocks. The UK is so far down the swanny, it really does not matter....and both of the main parties had a hand in that.

It’s certainly time for a brownout.....but no party has plans to sort out the immigration debacle. I will help them on that, as I will never be going back to the United States of Europe or is it Europé (Brit zone/province what have you)
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dbd33 May 10th 2010 7:14 am

Re: UK Elections
 

Originally Posted by airbornesapper (Post 8556105)
It’s certainly time for a brownout.....but no party has plans to sort out the immigration debacle. .

Could you please explain what you're getting at there? Ideally without using large brown jiggled letters. Thanks.

JamesM May 10th 2010 7:20 am

Re: UK Elections
 

Originally Posted by airbornesapper (Post 8556105)
Make it stop....after years of whining on by all and sundry about how New Labour (whatever that is) wrecked the UK (the massive un controlled influx form the EU) the Brit populace gets its just rewards.

Whoever ends up running the show, rest assured it will be more of the same old bollocks. The UK is so far down the swanny, it really does not matter....and both of the main parties had a hand in that.

It’s certainly time for a brownout.....but no party has plans to sort out the immigration debacle. I will help them on that, as I will never be going back to the United States of Europe or is it Europé (Brit zone/province what have you)
.

I think you've knocked your font, size and colour buttons.

They are making the reading of this debate somewhat unpleasing to the eye.

Other than that without Immigration the UK will go to the dogs and someone has to pay the taxes.

Almost Canadian May 10th 2010 7:46 am

Re: UK Elections
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8555976)
My reading of the result was that the electorate had had enough of labour, but weren't quite willing to trust the tories without some kind of check.

That assumes that the electorate are quite sophisticated and were able to vote "en masse" for such a result. Reality is that most people vote for those their mum and dad voted for. If you asked most people what the differences in policies were between the parties, I suspect, they wouldn't be able to tell you other than: Tory = nasty, Labour = incompetent, Lib Dems = full of those that couldn't cut it in the other two parties:thumbsup:

izzi81 May 10th 2010 7:58 am

Re: UK Elections
 

Originally Posted by airbornesapper (Post 8556105)
Whoever ends up running the show, rest assured it will be more of the same old bollocks. The UK is so far down the swanny, it really does not matter....and both of the main parties had a hand in that.

That's an OK point of view for you as you've made it out of the country... some of us are currently applying to get out and need a decent exchange rate! :unsure: :ohmy:

Oink May 10th 2010 8:04 am

Re: UK Elections
 

Originally Posted by izzi81 (Post 8556253)
That's an OK point of view for you as you've made it out of the country... some of us are currently applying to get out and need a decent exchange rate! :unsure: :ohmy:

Well, some of us are out and desperately want the British pound to fall against the Canadian dollar. It'll make my holiday back home much cheaper. :thumbup:

Canuck2b May 10th 2010 9:12 am

Re: UK Elections
 

Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 8556146)
I think you've knocked your font, size and colour buttons.

LOL....Hilarious!! Was thinking the same thing!

Lemonfish May 10th 2010 12:15 pm

Re: UK Elections
 

Originally Posted by airbornesapper (Post 8556105)
I will help them on that, as I will never be going back to the United States of Europe or is it Europé (Brit zone/province what have you).

What's with this whole thing about Europe? Its an obsession for some people.

Europe passes some good legislation and some not so good. But on balance, I'd say good mostly.

Generally, countries all benefit from being a bigger market and having good common standards. And we can travel/work where we want.

So Brits can retired to Spain/Greece etc and Poles can come work in UK and do the shite jobs Brits don't seem to want.

What's wrong with that??

dollface May 10th 2010 12:37 pm

Re: UK Elections
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8556122)
Could you please explain what you're getting at there? Ideally without using large brown jiggled letters. Thanks.

:lol:

Alan2005 May 10th 2010 1:09 pm

Re: UK Elections
 

Originally Posted by Lemonfish (Post 8556620)
What's with this whole thing about Europe? Its an obsession for some people.

Europe passes some good legislation and some not so good. But on balance, I'd say good mostly.

Generally, countries all benefit from being a bigger market and having good common standards. And we can travel/work where we want.

So Brits can retired to Spain/Greece etc and Poles can come work in UK and do the shite jobs Brits don't seem to want.

What's wrong with that??

Nothing. The EU is at it's best when it is acting as a counter-balance to the political capitalism of the kind you see in north america.

airbornesapper May 10th 2010 2:19 pm

Re: UK Elections
 

Originally Posted by Lemonfish (Post 8556620)
What's with this whole thing about Europe? Its an obsession for some people.

Europe passes some good legislation and some not so good. But on balance, I'd say good mostly.

Generally, countries all benefit from being a bigger market and having good common standards. And we can travel/work where we want.

So Brits can retired to Spain/Greece etc and Poles can come work in UK and do the shite jobs Brits don't seem to want.

What's wrong with that??


Try telling that to British farmers and fishermen (what`s left of them) and the 1.5 million or so claiming job seekers allowance (granted some of the latter are not interested in working).

Who by far is the greatest beneficiary of this EU malarkey, my guess is its the same as the largest recipient of Common Agricultural Policy funds, benefiting on a massive scale to the tune of 22% of a program that alone soaks up almost 1/2 the EU budget - France.

Why the hell should shed loads of Brit cash end up in EU coffers. I don't believe the average Brit ever had a vote in that. The EU started as a common market, perhaps it should have stayed that way.

Big waste of tax payer cash...add what is lost to the EU coffers coupled with recouping money from the MPs who fraudulently claimed expenses, hell the UK could break even one day before it sinks.

With 1390 members (both houses) in the UK Parliament surely that is enough.........to pass some good legislation. More chance of pigs taking flight.

Ain't life great - Feel the love.....Font suggestions always welcome.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...se-than-greece

UK budget deficit 'to surpass Greece's as worst in EU' -European commission's spring forecasts put UK budget deficit this year at 12% of GDP – the highest in the European Union and worse than Treasury estimates

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/elec...its-worst.html

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