dbd33

I try not to let on.

dbd33

Do you drive a bus ?

Lees147

No i design signalling systems to stop 1 train colliding with another

dbd33

Oh. Don't trains in England collide killing masses of commuters ? I saw something about that on the news. I'd be very worried about taking a train in England if I were you.

Here, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/465475.stm

Which is safer, a train in the UK or a plane across the Atlantic ?

Souvenir

This is, of course, something we don't have to worry about in Canada too much. There are only two trains; and only one crew. The chances of a collision are thus rather remote.

iaink

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I dont follow. I thought the discussion was about whether there are any legitimate grounds to be afraid to fly due to the threat of terrorist actions, not whether life is possible without a laptop in the cabin.

It will never be 100% safe, and as long as people live there life in fear, IMO the terrorists are winning. Frankly I'm not to impressed with the various governments actions to heighten this paranoia with all this red alert, orange alert bullshit and the enormous sensational media coverage either, its just oxygen to the terrorists cause.

Lees147

Believe it!!!

With trains you sacrifice reliability for safety.

My train is delayed every day pretty much but like I said I would rather come home late than not at all.

Much to my point I would rather not have a laptop for 10 hours than (potentially) someone attacking me somehow.

hot wasabi peas

Especially all at the same time. Believe you me.

dbd33

If you look at the link above you will see that a slow, or stationary, train is not safer than a moving one. It's non-moving trains that moving ones crash into.

Souvenir

I am not worried about having a laptop while in the air. I never use the thing while flying. I'm more concerned about not having a laptop at all when I get off the plane because a baggage handler has nicked it from my unlocked suitcase. The point I was trying to make is that restrictions like this will make business travellers think twice before deciding on a trip.

iaink

FedEx it to your hotel. It will probably get there before you do anyway.

Lees147

Listen we do not need to go into how Signalling works. Like I said if you increase security then people don't need to be worried by what threat terrorists possess and the thing that they are proposing is you lose 'some' of your hand luggage.

I'm not saying risk is high i am just saying that it happens.

You learn from experiance. normally you need to sacrifice something to achieve a greater gain all i am saying is that if you make a sacrifice for the duration of your flight then people would be less worried and ultimately we can stop the reporters from using the scare mongering techniques.

Rich_007

Unicycles and hot coffee are an inadvisable mixture, as are wifebeaters and strong midday sun.

I also advise against tackling a tree-bound porcupine at the dead of night wearing just slippers and a losely hung dressing gown.

Rich.

Stuarty

If the hold is a safe place to carry our hand-luggage maybe I should all sit down there and still have my laptop
Don't react to the Bastards that's what they want, the wrinklies showed us how to act in the Blitz so take a leaf out of their book and carry on regardless.
Stuarty

dbd33

Where I was going with the UK train wrecks is that, although the news coverage makes taking a train look a dangerous adventure, it's probably not. The same is true of aeroplanes and terrorists. What's odd is that you seem to think trains reasonably safe, you travel on one (perhaps with a computer) but fear aeroplanes. I don't see why you should allow news coverage to worry you about one but not the other.