Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
#166










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And if I can do it, anyone can.
Good luck J. I know how hard it is to just keep going, but you'll make it.
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#167
I know it probably sounds silly, but my doctor told me to have de-cafe everything and only semi-skimmed milk.
And i have been doing this since January and it certainly makes a difference to loosing weight.
You could always give it a try and see how you get on.
And i have been doing this since January and it certainly makes a difference to loosing weight.
You could always give it a try and see how you get on.
#168
I don't like tea or coffee and just drink water, juice and recently got into green tea
J x
#169
Another BE member is going through all this at the moment. She's still having tests but she's been very unwell and her doctor agrees with me
that she's underactive and has a gluten allergy. I'm hoping she joins in our thread or, at the very least, gets some useful information from it. 
Yes this thread is useful....as are you Seamonster...
anyone interpret these results (not even what I asked for anyway from the GP...or should I say Jack of all trades master of none esp thyroid, nutrition or listening skills!!!!)
TSH 1.9 (normal ranges 0.5 to 4.5)
Serum Iron 10 umo1/L (10-30 normal range)
Transferrin 37 '' (27-53 '')
Transferrin Saturation 14% (12-45)
Serum Ferritin 22 (15-165)
SHE sould not explain them she basically had NO idea what I was talking about and patronised me by saying it would mean nothing to me anyway....
Just as well the naturopath understands and agrees I have gluten intolerance, dodgy thyroid and basal temps of 35, and probably candida....
Anyway I feel pretty much better since seeing the naturpoath but increasingly GPs frustrate me....
PP
#170
Following on from Badge's post and as a point of interest, do men have thyroid problems? Both this thread and the previous one do seem all women unless it's the random nice male asking on behalf of their wives. Just made me wonder that's all 

#171

Can't do the results but the cheek of that doctor

The reason they won't mean anything is incase you decide to do something about them!!
I have a doctor just like yours. I keep on at them and they are SLOWLY coming around...
J x
#172
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Hello Plank, darling - of course I meant you 
Your doctor is an arse, I told you that already. She's more interested in your iron than your thyroid because she knows nothing about thyroids. You got the tests (not enough of them) done cheaply through her; now go back to the naturopath who agrees with me on what's wrong with you
You are underactive, for sure. You are where I was about 3 years ago, which is why you are having such bad reactions to some foodstuffs; your body is turning on itself. Like Britney, you're Toxic. 
Pen - much more common in women but not unheard of in men. How many men have a problem and don't get tested, I dread to think. IIRC there was one guy on the original thread who posted briefly on his own account. My friend's Dad and brother are both underactive so I don't have much hope for her.

Your doctor is an arse, I told you that already. She's more interested in your iron than your thyroid because she knows nothing about thyroids. You got the tests (not enough of them) done cheaply through her; now go back to the naturopath who agrees with me on what's wrong with you
You are underactive, for sure. You are where I was about 3 years ago, which is why you are having such bad reactions to some foodstuffs; your body is turning on itself. Like Britney, you're Toxic. 
Pen - much more common in women but not unheard of in men. How many men have a problem and don't get tested, I dread to think. IIRC there was one guy on the original thread who posted briefly on his own account. My friend's Dad and brother are both underactive so I don't have much hope for her.
#174
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Hello fellow thyroid sufferers.
I posted a couple of times in the old thread. Just wanted to ask if any of you are or have been on beta blockers for high BP when suffering from hypothyroidism??
I've started to look into this because I have been on beta blockers for high BP for 5 years now. Was diagnosed with hypothyroidism 2 1/2 years ago when we arrived in Australia. (cos UK docs wouldn't do anything about my symptoms).
Didn't feel my 50mcg thyroxine was doing anything, with main symptoms being gaining weight, fatigue & painful joints, however,,, I got pregnant & had to come off the beta blockers & use an alternative BP med. All of a sudden I started losing weight, pregnant with twins & lost a stone! (I put 4 stones on in a previous pregnancy
)
I gave birth to my twins 13 weeks ago, & lost a further 6lbs the week after. Went back to the docs to be put back on the beta blockers for my BP & have put all the weight back on in the matter of weeks
I've read that beta blockers are sometimes treated for HYPERthyroidism so could this actually stop the thyroxine from working for me?
Going back to my docs next week, just thought I'd see if anyone else has had a similar problem or perhaps are on beta blockers & haven't realised any connection.
Would appreciate your thoughts/knowledge.
Thanks Leigh
I posted a couple of times in the old thread. Just wanted to ask if any of you are or have been on beta blockers for high BP when suffering from hypothyroidism??
I've started to look into this because I have been on beta blockers for high BP for 5 years now. Was diagnosed with hypothyroidism 2 1/2 years ago when we arrived in Australia. (cos UK docs wouldn't do anything about my symptoms).
Didn't feel my 50mcg thyroxine was doing anything, with main symptoms being gaining weight, fatigue & painful joints, however,,, I got pregnant & had to come off the beta blockers & use an alternative BP med. All of a sudden I started losing weight, pregnant with twins & lost a stone! (I put 4 stones on in a previous pregnancy
)I gave birth to my twins 13 weeks ago, & lost a further 6lbs the week after. Went back to the docs to be put back on the beta blockers for my BP & have put all the weight back on in the matter of weeks
I've read that beta blockers are sometimes treated for HYPERthyroidism so could this actually stop the thyroxine from working for me?
Going back to my docs next week, just thought I'd see if anyone else has had a similar problem or perhaps are on beta blockers & haven't realised any connection.
Would appreciate your thoughts/knowledge.
Thanks Leigh
#175
Hello fellow thyroid sufferers.
I posted a couple of times in the old thread. Just wanted to ask if any of you are or have been on beta blockers for high BP when suffering from hypothyroidism??
I've started to look into this because I have been on beta blockers for high BP for 5 years now. Was diagnosed with hypothyroidism 2 1/2 years ago when we arrived in Australia. (cos UK docs wouldn't do anything about my symptoms).
Didn't feel my 50mcg thyroxine was doing anything, with main symptoms being gaining weight, fatigue & painful joints, however,,, I got pregnant & had to come off the beta blockers & use an alternative BP med. All of a sudden I started losing weight, pregnant with twins & lost a stone! (I put 4 stones on in a previous pregnancy
)
I gave birth to my twins 13 weeks ago, & lost a further 6lbs the week after. Went back to the docs to be put back on the beta blockers for my BP & have put all the weight back on in the matter of weeks
I've read that beta blockers are sometimes treated for HYPERthyroidism so could this actually stop the thyroxine from working for me?
Going back to my docs next week, just thought I'd see if anyone else has had a similar problem or perhaps are on beta blockers & haven't realised any connection.
Would appreciate your thoughts/knowledge.
Thanks Leigh
I posted a couple of times in the old thread. Just wanted to ask if any of you are or have been on beta blockers for high BP when suffering from hypothyroidism??
I've started to look into this because I have been on beta blockers for high BP for 5 years now. Was diagnosed with hypothyroidism 2 1/2 years ago when we arrived in Australia. (cos UK docs wouldn't do anything about my symptoms).
Didn't feel my 50mcg thyroxine was doing anything, with main symptoms being gaining weight, fatigue & painful joints, however,,, I got pregnant & had to come off the beta blockers & use an alternative BP med. All of a sudden I started losing weight, pregnant with twins & lost a stone! (I put 4 stones on in a previous pregnancy
)I gave birth to my twins 13 weeks ago, & lost a further 6lbs the week after. Went back to the docs to be put back on the beta blockers for my BP & have put all the weight back on in the matter of weeks
I've read that beta blockers are sometimes treated for HYPERthyroidism so could this actually stop the thyroxine from working for me?
Going back to my docs next week, just thought I'd see if anyone else has had a similar problem or perhaps are on beta blockers & haven't realised any connection.
Would appreciate your thoughts/knowledge.
Thanks Leigh
Welcome to the thyroid thread. I can not help you much with information on your problem, but i am sure there will be many on here that can give you a wealth of help.
I wish you all the best, as having hypothyroidism my self i know how it can affect you.
#176










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I can't help you either but I did do a good google which is probably the same as you've done.

I think really that it might be good to see an Endo... Is there anything else you can use for blood pressure that might be an alternative?
If Beta blockers are for hyper, then it's reasonable I think, to assume that they affect your thyroid... but I really don't know.
Can your doc help you at all?
#177










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Hello fellow thyroid sufferers.
I posted a couple of times in the old thread. Just wanted to ask if any of you are or have been on beta blockers for high BP when suffering from hypothyroidism??
I've started to look into this because I have been on beta blockers for high BP for 5 years now. Was diagnosed with hypothyroidism 2 1/2 years ago when we arrived in Australia. (cos UK docs wouldn't do anything about my symptoms).
Didn't feel my 50mcg thyroxine was doing anything, with main symptoms being gaining weight, fatigue & painful joints, however,,, I got pregnant & had to come off the beta blockers & use an alternative BP med. All of a sudden I started losing weight, pregnant with twins & lost a stone! (I put 4 stones on in a previous pregnancy
)
I gave birth to my twins 13 weeks ago, & lost a further 6lbs the week after. Went back to the docs to be put back on the beta blockers for my BP & have put all the weight back on in the matter of weeks
I've read that beta blockers are sometimes treated for HYPERthyroidism so could this actually stop the thyroxine from working for me?
Going back to my docs next week, just thought I'd see if anyone else has had a similar problem or perhaps are on beta blockers & haven't realised any connection.
Would appreciate your thoughts/knowledge.
Thanks Leigh
I posted a couple of times in the old thread. Just wanted to ask if any of you are or have been on beta blockers for high BP when suffering from hypothyroidism??
I've started to look into this because I have been on beta blockers for high BP for 5 years now. Was diagnosed with hypothyroidism 2 1/2 years ago when we arrived in Australia. (cos UK docs wouldn't do anything about my symptoms).
Didn't feel my 50mcg thyroxine was doing anything, with main symptoms being gaining weight, fatigue & painful joints, however,,, I got pregnant & had to come off the beta blockers & use an alternative BP med. All of a sudden I started losing weight, pregnant with twins & lost a stone! (I put 4 stones on in a previous pregnancy
)I gave birth to my twins 13 weeks ago, & lost a further 6lbs the week after. Went back to the docs to be put back on the beta blockers for my BP & have put all the weight back on in the matter of weeks
I've read that beta blockers are sometimes treated for HYPERthyroidism so could this actually stop the thyroxine from working for me?
Going back to my docs next week, just thought I'd see if anyone else has had a similar problem or perhaps are on beta blockers & haven't realised any connection.
Would appreciate your thoughts/knowledge.
Thanks Leigh
Your dose needs examining with your doc....
Things may improve once you're moved up to a higher dose.
Back to the doctor?
#178
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Thanks for your response. I've been kept on 50mcg for 2 years now & have regularly complained I didn't think it was doing anything to three different doctors (all in the same surgery) & they just keep saying my test results say I'm within the 'normal' range! My TSH started at something like 7 before thyroxine, then ranged between 2 and 3 on different occasions. When I found out I was pregnant & stopped taking the beta blockers it came down to 1.something & finally started to feel better. Since having my twins & going back on to beta blockers I started to feel rough again & gained loads of weight very quickly. Went back to doctors & he said 'no your results are normal' I asked what they were & he said 2.7. I know now that I feel better when it is between 1-2.
After my research on beta blockers I went back last week & questioned the doctor about it. They do interfere with the effectiveness of thyroxine
so he agreed to wean me off beta blockers & try an alternative. 2 bloody years I've been taking both! Arghhhhhh
Sooooooo fingers crossed I'll finally be sorted & may only need the 50mcg?
Thanks again Annabel, really appreciate your advice.
After my research on beta blockers I went back last week & questioned the doctor about it. They do interfere with the effectiveness of thyroxine
so he agreed to wean me off beta blockers & try an alternative. 2 bloody years I've been taking both! Arghhhhhh
Sooooooo fingers crossed I'll finally be sorted & may only need the 50mcg?
Thanks again Annabel, really appreciate your advice.
#179
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Thanks for your response. I've been kept on 50mcg for 2 years now & have regularly complained I didn't think it was doing anything to three different doctors (all in the same surgery) & they just keep saying my test results say I'm within the 'normal' range! My TSH started at something like 7 before thyroxine, then ranged between 2 and 3 on different occasions. When I found out I was pregnant & stopped taking the beta blockers it came down to 1.something & finally started to feel better. Since having my twins & going back on to beta blockers I started to feel rough again & gained loads of weight very quickly. Went back to doctors & he said 'no your results are normal' I asked what they were & he said 2.7. I know now that I feel better when it is between 1-2.
After my research on beta blockers I went back last week & questioned the doctor about it. They do interfere with the effectiveness of thyroxine
so he agreed to wean me off beta blockers & try an alternative. 2 bloody years I've been taking both! Arghhhhhh
Sooooooo fingers crossed I'll finally be sorted & may only need the 50mcg?
Thanks again Annabel, really appreciate your advice.
After my research on beta blockers I went back last week & questioned the doctor about it. They do interfere with the effectiveness of thyroxine
so he agreed to wean me off beta blockers & try an alternative. 2 bloody years I've been taking both! Arghhhhhh
Sooooooo fingers crossed I'll finally be sorted & may only need the 50mcg?
Thanks again Annabel, really appreciate your advice.
There's a company that makes a combination of L-T4 & T3: Merck makes a brand they call Novotiral, and that's helped a bunch of my patients in the past.
But, yes, you are right - beta blockers CAN interfere with the 'effects' of the L-thyroxine.
Good luck anyway, and apologies again, for the intrusion.
#180
Don't apologise for having relevant advice. There are a few people on here who are experts from having to manage their own symptoms and the odd doctor (as in a few not as in peculiar
). More experts giving sensible/realistic/legitimate advice is always a help. What's your job out of interest? You mention patients but that doesn't necessarily mean your a doctor of medicine
). More experts giving sensible/realistic/legitimate advice is always a help. What's your job out of interest? You mention patients but that doesn't necessarily mean your a doctor of medicine



