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Old Mar 12th 2011 | 8:19 am
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Statistically nuclear power is the safest source of energy. Oxygen is the biggest carcinogen and the reason 1 in 3 get cancer anyway! It isn't feasible to continue to burn carbon without a means of capturing it so where do we go if we don't go nuclear?
 
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Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
I was reading something not that long ago about the farming restrictions in Wales. It pointed out that background radiation levels in Cornwall are actually higher than those in the effected area in Wales... but as those levels in Cornwall are 'normal' it's OK for them to farm sheep, but not in Wales.
It's an English plot then?

Cornish radiation I suspect is due to Radon gas rather than nuclear fall out. The difference may be that the sheep are more exposed to radiation in Cornwall but they don't ingest the radioactive substances.
 
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Originally Posted by Rambi
It's an English plot then?

Cornish radiation I suspect is due to Radon gas rather than nuclear fall out. The difference may be that the sheep are more exposed to radiation in Cornwall but they don't ingest the radioactive substances.
The levels in Cornwall are indeed due to Radon.
Dunno about the technical differences between the sites, but the article itself was making the point that it wasn't so straightforward an issue as the nuclear inspectorate was making out. I think it was trying to make the case, that it was safe to farm in those areas of Wales and had been for years, but wasn't seen as 'politically safe' to be seen to remove the restrictions until levels fell to pre-Chernoybl levels.
 
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Originally Posted by Turban Explorer
Statistically nuclear power is the safest source of energy. Oxygen is the biggest carcinogen and the reason 1 in 3 get cancer anyway! It isn't feasible to continue to burn carbon without a means of capturing it so where do we go if we don't go nuclear?
 
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Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
The levels in Cornwall are indeed due to Radon.
Dunno about the technical differences between the sites, but the article itself was making the point that it wasn't so straightforward an issue as the nuclear inspectorate was making out. I think it was trying to make the case, that it was safe to farm in those areas of Wales and had been for years, but wasn't seen as 'politically safe' to be seen to remove the restrictions until levels fell to pre-Chernoybl levels.
Definitely an English plot then!

I would say if the number of failed tests falls to zero in a 12 month period that they lift the restrictions.
 
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Originally Posted by renth
Hopefully this will put paid to the idea that nuclear is the answer to global warming.


Too many people have been falling for that argument since it started to show its ugly head here a few years ago (on the back of intense lobbying by uranium mining interests). Most or all of those who support it on the grounds of economic or enviornmental reasons would be classic NIMBY's who of course would happily accept the plants somewhere but would not live next to 'em.
 
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Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack
My Daily Mail headline generator would manage that one easily!

http://www.qwghlm.co.uk/toys/dailymail/
Brilliant - i got "Are the poles destroying your mortgage"
 
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Re: the nuclear reactor in Japan...
O! this is rich...some American guy on CNN is saying that the Japanese government isn't 'forthright'...i.e. truth-telling.
 
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Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
What about them?

WHO estimates, in a worse case scenario, that Chernobyl related deaths, far and away the worst nuke accident, at about 4,000 over the next 50 years.

Pretty good in a direct comparison to mining deaths, never mind 'indirect deaths' from the polution from burning coal.
That is the figure given by the UN's International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) and World Health Organisation.

However it appears to ignore significant health problems, fetal abnormalities and so on also 34,499 people who took part in the clean-up of Chernobyl.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...energy.ukraine

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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
That is the figure given by the UN's International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) and World Health Organisation.

However it appears to ignore significant health problems, fetal abnormalities and so on also 34,499 people who took part in the clean-up of Chernobyl.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...energy.ukraine
I have to be honest and say that, in this case, I would tend to go with the World Heath Org and the IAEA, against Greenpeace and the Guardian, particularly if they are going to come out with claims of half a million deaths.
 
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Being a consipracy theorist by nature... How much WILL they be telling us about the situation in japan....??
 
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
That is the figure given by the UN's International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) and World Health Organisation.

However it appears to ignore significant health problems, fetal abnormalities and so on also 34,499 people who took part in the clean-up of Chernobyl.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...energy.ukraine
Any news on the people hit by falling wind turbines or skidding off the roof installing solar panels?
 
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Checking the back pages for unpalateable news... Its a good day for governments to be slipping nasty surprises past voters without us noticing isn't it...
 
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Originally Posted by DeadVim
Any news on the people hit by falling wind turbines or skidding off the roof installing solar panels?
Wouldn't want to be near one doing this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nSB1SdVHqQ
 
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Originally Posted by DeadVim
Any news on the people hit by falling wind turbines or skidding off the roof installing solar panels?
Apparently...wind turbines make bat lungs explode!

 


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