Nuclear Meltdown?
Mar 17th 2011 | 11:55 am
#391
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown?
Plenty of sources of info out there though, @OfficialTEPCO on twitter and going through a bunch of followed sources is a start.
Mar 17th 2011 | 12:04 pm
#392
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown?
Power is back on now, this was what the real experts were hoping for as the start of the end for this part of the disaster, if they can keep the pumps cooling the reactors. Now hopefully the media can start looking at the elephant in the room in the humanitarian crisis in Japan. The media globally have been really quite sick in their coverage of the nuclear incident, hyping up any possible risk of meltdown shame on them.
Mar 17th 2011 | 12:11 pm
#393
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown?
Power production ceased in 2000.
As Vegie said earlier, they really had little choice but to keep the rest of the plant running. It would have been that, or turn the lights off. Info here
http://www.power-technology.com/projects/chernobyl/
As Vegie said earlier, they really had little choice but to keep the rest of the plant running. It would have been that, or turn the lights off. Info here
http://www.power-technology.com/projects/chernobyl/
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Mar 17th 2011 | 12:17 pm
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>>Just to clarify for those that dont know:
TWh = terawatt hour. It corresponds to 1,000,000,000,000 Watts per hour. It is the amount of energy that would be produced by a 1,000,000 MW generator over a period of one hour, or a 114 MW generator over a period of approximately one year.
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Just to further clarify - it's NOT *per* hour - it's *times* one hour - if it were the former the hours on the bottom of the expression would be squared! (The second sentence correctly describes it.)
TWh = terawatt hour. It corresponds to 1,000,000,000,000 Watts per hour. It is the amount of energy that would be produced by a 1,000,000 MW generator over a period of one hour, or a 114 MW generator over a period of approximately one year.
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Just to further clarify - it's NOT *per* hour - it's *times* one hour - if it were the former the hours on the bottom of the expression would be squared! (The second sentence correctly describes it.)
Mar 17th 2011 | 12:18 pm
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It's disturbing how the German government has suddenly gone full steam towards an exit from nuclear power. I would have hoped if anything good comes out of the catastrophe in Japan it would be investment in new technology to render nuclear power safer. Reversing straight back into fossil fuel means a set back to clean energy of decades.
A lot of nuclear design technology used is from the 1950s. Japan should be the wake up call that Western governments need to invest in hi tech safer and cleaner facilities - not to give up on it for short term political gain. The public misconception that all nuclear power is bad has prevented many governments from exploiting potentially earth saving source of power. I think governments should be educating people away from that paranoia rather than pandering to it.
France has nearly 80% nuclear power. They clearly don't have the same paranoia that so many other populi have fallen into.
A lot of nuclear design technology used is from the 1950s. Japan should be the wake up call that Western governments need to invest in hi tech safer and cleaner facilities - not to give up on it for short term political gain. The public misconception that all nuclear power is bad has prevented many governments from exploiting potentially earth saving source of power. I think governments should be educating people away from that paranoia rather than pandering to it.
France has nearly 80% nuclear power. They clearly don't have the same paranoia that so many other populi have fallen into.
Who says that they're heading back to fossil fuels? Is that pro-nuke hype like the one about American's in Utah taking iodine tablets?
Mar 17th 2011 | 12:21 pm
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown?
Conventional hydro on its own powers lots of industrial plants and is a well known source of baseload and topping power. As the full costs of fossil and nuclear fuels get internalized we will start to see renewables being able to compete.
In order to help smooth renewable intermittency we will need more robust electricity grids and enhanced storage - pumped hydro is already used in some countries to store excess power and is an obvious way of doing this before other more novel techniques like the methane system come on-line.
In order to help smooth renewable intermittency we will need more robust electricity grids and enhanced storage - pumped hydro is already used in some countries to store excess power and is an obvious way of doing this before other more novel techniques like the methane system come on-line.
Mar 17th 2011 | 12:23 pm
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown?
US, UK Pull Search Teams Out Of Japan As TEPCO Admits Situation Is "Severe"
"This is a severe incident that is occurring right now," the spokesman said at a news conference. "We have vented and used seawater as cooling, followed the accident management plan but this is a very severe operation." The admission comes as plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co (Tepco) continues attempts to stop the six-reactor Fukushima 1 complex from going into nuclear meltdown. "We have to keep cooling the fuel so it doesn't reach criticality," the Tepco spokesman said, adding that radiation levels have barely fallen at the site." Translation: if operation "Irrigation" fails, TEPCO itself confirms the chance of a critical reaction in the nuclear fuel is very high. Which of course would explain why everyone who knows more than the average peasant who just watches manipulated media, is getting the hell out of dodge."
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/us-...tuation-severe
"This is a severe incident that is occurring right now," the spokesman said at a news conference. "We have vented and used seawater as cooling, followed the accident management plan but this is a very severe operation." The admission comes as plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co (Tepco) continues attempts to stop the six-reactor Fukushima 1 complex from going into nuclear meltdown. "We have to keep cooling the fuel so it doesn't reach criticality," the Tepco spokesman said, adding that radiation levels have barely fallen at the site." Translation: if operation "Irrigation" fails, TEPCO itself confirms the chance of a critical reaction in the nuclear fuel is very high. Which of course would explain why everyone who knows more than the average peasant who just watches manipulated media, is getting the hell out of dodge."
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/us-...tuation-severe
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Mar 17th 2011 | 12:28 pm
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Mar 17th 2011 | 12:29 pm
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Mar 17th 2011 | 12:30 pm
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Mar 17th 2011 | 12:36 pm
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I don't have an answer for that, though that link seems to suggest that the major accident was just one of many, less serious, incidents.
Mar 17th 2011 | 12:40 pm
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Mar 17th 2011 | 12:41 pm
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Mar 17th 2011 | 12:42 pm
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