Machiavelli

I suppose you could just have ignored the thread, having read the title, rather than post the reply that you did.

Or you could have put Paul on ignore so that you don't read his posts and are therefore unaware of his situation.

Or was it just that you thought you'd toss the cat amongst the pidgeons for a laugh? I'd like to think you had more common decency than that though.


I second that.

Some manners would suffice, if you can't say something nice....keep your mouth closed.

I've followed this guys posts but have rarely responded because he seems to have a good network of friends here from way before I joined the forum.

My heart has gone out to him and his family from first reading his posts. I doubt that there are many of us here who have worked so hard and sacrificed so much just to be on Australian soil. He's working his @rse off to give his family a better life, and I for one, take my hat off to him for his dogged determination to "live the dream" when most of us would have been hiding licking our wounds by now.


Apologies if I've offended anyone here. (Although this is the polite version of what I'd have like to have said!)

M

soapy©

to be honest a think fluffy was trying to show paul that he is setting himself up as an easy target. maybe he might have picked better wording, but hey it is a public forum and we can all type our opinion. noone has to agree with it

Bix

Excellent choice of words Fluff.

Machiavelli

Sorry Soapy,

I know you're a good guy. I know that you bring a lot of people together on the forum, and try to keep the wheels of friendship oiled.

But! If he was thinking of Paul and his family's best interests he could have PM'd him.

I have a better forum life via PMs than on the forum. There was no need for him to "publicly" comment like this.

I think I remember him saying somewhere that he had re-invented himself because he didn't like the "persona" his forum ID had become. Maybe now we're seeing the "real" Rob.

Again, apologies to anyone I've offended here. The last thing we all need is an argument amongst ourselves. No matter how funny it is to the "lurkers".

M

PaulandNic

I don't want any arguments ...

Fluffy IS entitled to his opinion, and has the right to express it.

Maybe he's right, maybe I should shut my gob!

Or maybe I should just do as I please. Do as I have here for over 4 years without any major complaints.

Water under the bridge.

nanny2six

I agree with you, chatting and sharing your problems do help, just knowing you can go to someone and have a good old moan and not be judged is a good thing,my heart goes out to Paul and his family, it helps having all you lovely people out ther. but when your low and ive been there too, the only person who can get you out of depresion is yourself, so good luck to paul

Pollyana

I think you've hit the nail on the head there Paul; you started the thread, this is the way you wish to express your feelings, and I think as a longtime poster, who has shared all the ups and downs with BE you really do know what you are doing when you open your heart like this.

If a newer poster had aired such deep feelings, I would feel concerned that he/she didn't really know what they were doing sharing their innermost thoughts with the fourm......but I'm fairly sure that you do know what and why, and if you want the thread removed, you know what to do, some Mods don't sleep (much!!).
I know that it can actually help a lot for some people to share their feelings like this; I have done it myself more than once, both on here and elsewhere, and I have found that by hearing the views of others from all directions, on all levels, I can often find a key to the current dilemma.

In Fluffy's defence, as Paul says, I think he is entitled to express his opinion. Again it is in character with the "Fluffy" persona, and I think Paul realises that.
Fluffy's migration journey has been very different to Paul's, and he is probably a very different person inside as well. Having read Fluffy's post which is under fire, it's not actually that bad - he is posting his opinion, and Paul has responded to his questions. It's become a debate - might make Fluffy see things a little from the other side, the less secure side. I feel for you, Paul, as I spent a long time on temp visas, and unless you have known that insecurity you will never truly know how it feels, will you. I also take my hat off to you - you have fought against so many odds to get this far, keep fighting mate, keep sharing whatever you want to share, and lets all try and learn something from your sheer guts and determination.

I think deep down it's threads like this which remind us that BE is a very diverse family, but we can all respect each other's views.

Sue

Exactly. Whether in good times or bad BE will be here and thats the bottom line. We've all made friends on here and the support system that we offer each other is second to none. We congratulate each other when things go well, and offer a shoulder for when it doesn't.

Sue

PaulandNic

Exactly! ... (copy cat ... )

I've said many a time how I love BE and how I love Australia. I've told of the good, and I've told of the bad! I've also stated many a time that I personally couldn't get through all the agg we have / get (and we do get heaps being temp residents) here without the support I get from fellow BE members, most I've never even met before!

I AM an 'open book' as I say and I apologise if I come across as being a big gob or whatever you want to call me, but I get a LOT of help and support here so WILL continue to wear my heart on my sleeve.

Believe it or not, I DO have many other issues that I daren't speak on here so I'm not 100% on that, but for some I probably DO say too much. I'm sorry if I offend you but you DO have the option to 'opt out' or don't even go there in the first place!

Believe me, I REALLY can't wait to throw up a positive post / thread about how I've got a job, or how I'm feeling sooooo much better. I have no crystal ball so don't know when this will happen, but I DO know that with the law of averages it's only a matter of time.

Bring it on! ...

Pollyana

And when it happens, you know we will all be in there, cheering for you

PaulandNic

Maybe not all, but good ole 'law of averages' DOES after all dictate that that isn't really possible ... I know that!

One or two is enough for me ...

Oooops! ... a smile just popped out there, maybe the tabs are starting to work ...

A 'big grin' too! ... what next?

Thanks Polly.

Pollyana

No worries, keep the sense of humour, its worth its weight in gold and can see you through most things.....I know, I've been there, and maybe sometimes I'm still there............

nanny2six

nice one Paul, first a smile then a big grinyou have made my day to know you feel a bit better, to you take a day at a time

Ransi

Paul, I have no wise words or great advice....

Just want you to know Im thinking of you hun..

(((((((()))))))) xxxxxxxx

soapy©

did the bloke type this?

one of the best things i have read on here pal........pure magic!