The first mistake in the bible!
Jun 23rd 2007, 4:45 am
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Re: The first mistake in the bible!
Thanks Sally. Carry on 'Thinking less, breathing more' - that's a great philosophy. Just trying to play devils advocate ('scuse the pun).
Sorry if I've offended anyone for having a slightly different opinion to the masses. It's also interesting to note that whilst people here say they can't stand God botherers because they alway think they're right and you can't win an arguement with them no matter what you say - well what is everyone doing on this thread?? Exactly that I'd suggest - 'we're right, you're wrong, you're stupid for thinking any differently to us'. Brilliant.
Graham
PS For the record I'm not a practising Christian or anything else.
Sorry if I've offended anyone for having a slightly different opinion to the masses. It's also interesting to note that whilst people here say they can't stand God botherers because they alway think they're right and you can't win an arguement with them no matter what you say - well what is everyone doing on this thread?? Exactly that I'd suggest - 'we're right, you're wrong, you're stupid for thinking any differently to us'. Brilliant.
Graham
PS For the record I'm not a practising Christian or anything else.
I thought you were leaving.
Jun 23rd 2007, 4:46 am
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Re: The first mistake in the bible!
Did I say that Sally? Wind your neck in love.
I simply like to have an open mind to all possibilities. Is it so impossible to believe there was a preacher called Jesus? Just like I believe in evolution, I am quite capable of believing there may have been a preacher. I didn't say I believed that the bible was right at all, I actually said that I reckon the majority of the Bible is tosh.
I simply like to have an open mind to all possibilities. Is it so impossible to believe there was a preacher called Jesus? Just like I believe in evolution, I am quite capable of believing there may have been a preacher. I didn't say I believed that the bible was right at all, I actually said that I reckon the majority of the Bible is tosh.
Jun 23rd 2007, 4:48 am
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Re: The first mistake in the bible!
Did I say that Sally? Wind your neck in love.
I simply like to have an open mind to all possibilities. Is it so impossible to believe there was a preacher called Jesus? Just like I believe in evolution, I am quite capable of believing there may have been a preacher. I didn't say I believed that the bible was right at all, I actually said that I reckon the majority of the Bible is tosh.
I simply like to have an open mind to all possibilities. Is it so impossible to believe there was a preacher called Jesus? Just like I believe in evolution, I am quite capable of believing there may have been a preacher. I didn't say I believed that the bible was right at all, I actually said that I reckon the majority of the Bible is tosh.
Jun 23rd 2007, 5:14 am
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Re: The first mistake in the bible!
I could spend my afternoon googling but can't be bothered so does anyone KNOW what the likes of Aristotle called the date during their lifetimes?
I have issues as to whether Jesus existed anyway especially as there is supposed debate on his date of birth. If it was so miraculous that they changed the date system just for him why did they take a pagan festival date? Surely they could have found an 'unsullied' date like perhaps the actual date he was born.
If this debate has done anything miraculous it must be that I now need to give Arkon karma for his previous comment
Hallelujah, praise the lord.
I have issues as to whether Jesus existed anyway especially as there is supposed debate on his date of birth. If it was so miraculous that they changed the date system just for him why did they take a pagan festival date? Surely they could have found an 'unsullied' date like perhaps the actual date he was born.
If this debate has done anything miraculous it must be that I now need to give Arkon karma for his previous comment
Hallelujah, praise the lord.
Jun 23rd 2007, 6:14 am
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Re: The first mistake in the bible!
I tried, moneypen, but i just found this!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dating_system
Will keep looking....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dating_system
Will keep looking....
Jun 23rd 2007, 6:16 am
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Re: The first mistake in the bible!
I tried, moneypen, but i just found this!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dating_system
Will keep looking....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dating_system
Will keep looking....
Jun 23rd 2007, 6:37 am
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Re: The first mistake in the bible!
Thanks Esp. I think 
So in other words, the date used as Jesus's birth is about 18 years out maybe perhaps who knows. 
So in other words, the date used as Jesus's birth is about 18 years out maybe perhaps who knows.
Jun 23rd 2007, 6:52 am
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Re: The first mistake in the bible!
In my mind evolution is way more fascinating. Just looking up to the stars and thinking of all of those planets out there also has me awe struck! It is totally amazing. I do not believe in any religion or nay god unfortunately. But thats just my opinion and is probably worthless anyway. I would like to think there was a heaven and a life after death but I can't see it personally.
Jun 23rd 2007, 6:59 am
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Re: The first mistake in the bible!
I like to think that without any need for religion people still live on in two ways - one is the way that they have influenced other people during their lives, the good they have done (hopefully) and the values that they gave their children.
The other is the energy that was part of their body rejoins the world again, whether it is decomposing in the ground (sorry can't think of a nicer word than decomposing) or the ashes being scattered somewhere. Tiny bits of the person will become part of new life. I feel very comfortable with that concept.
(It's ashes to ashes dust to dust, I suppose! Maybe the bible does have some things right in it!)
The other is the energy that was part of their body rejoins the world again, whether it is decomposing in the ground (sorry can't think of a nicer word than decomposing) or the ashes being scattered somewhere. Tiny bits of the person will become part of new life. I feel very comfortable with that concept.
(It's ashes to ashes dust to dust, I suppose! Maybe the bible does have some things right in it!)
Jun 23rd 2007, 7:00 am
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In my mind evolution is way more fascinating. Just looking up to the stars and thinking of all of those planets out there also has me awe struck! It is totally amazing. I do not believe in any religion or nay god unfortunately. But thats just my opinion and is probably worthless anyway. I would like to think there was a heaven and a life after death but I can't see it personally.
Jun 23rd 2007, 7:02 am
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Re: The first mistake in the bible!
This isn't aimed at you JTL, but isn't it interesting how much time and money many people (who publicly call people idiots who even half believe in there being a creator) waste on buying books and reading up on the issue?!
It really interests and fascinates people.
Various people state with absolute conviction that it's all rubbish and anyone who believes it is a freak - there's absolutely no evidence etc.,, etc...
Well here's a simple, non inflamatory question - why are we in the year 2007AD? AD being Anno Domini. Surely that must mean something?
Also, as a passing comment, I personally find it far more unbelievable that we all evolved from some cosmic goo - this is what the most (apparently) intelligent scientists would have us believe!!!! WTF?! Are you for real? Ooooh yeah, a bit of goo (oh, by the way - how did the goo get there?) that developed into what we see in 2007. Oh yeah - I buy that LOL
Sorry, this is long winded. But what annoys me is people who catagorically say it's crap and it's 'obvious' that we just happened to be and quote some book written by a scientist as 'proof'. What crap.
Graham
It really interests and fascinates people.
Various people state with absolute conviction that it's all rubbish and anyone who believes it is a freak - there's absolutely no evidence etc.,, etc...
Well here's a simple, non inflamatory question - why are we in the year 2007AD? AD being Anno Domini. Surely that must mean something?
Also, as a passing comment, I personally find it far more unbelievable that we all evolved from some cosmic goo - this is what the most (apparently) intelligent scientists would have us believe!!!! WTF?! Are you for real? Ooooh yeah, a bit of goo (oh, by the way - how did the goo get there?) that developed into what we see in 2007. Oh yeah - I buy that LOL
Sorry, this is long winded. But what annoys me is people who catagorically say it's crap and it's 'obvious' that we just happened to be and quote some book written by a scientist as 'proof'. What crap.
Graham
I beleive what I can see, I see death on a daily basis. I would like to believe there is a better life afterwards but I have seen death first hand on many occasions and I can honestly say I don't believe in such things now. I had a strict christian upbringing myself and believed in god until I was 14-15 then reality struck.
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Jun 23rd 2007, 7:03 am
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Re: The first mistake in the bible!
Mmmm, could be against their human rights. Not their fault if God made them sin. It's alright though, you just have to ask for forgiveness and you get to go to heaven anyway.
Jun 23rd 2007, 7:10 am
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Re: The first mistake in the bible!
I like to think that without any need for religion people still live on in two ways - one is the way that they have influenced other people during their lives, the good they have done (hopefully) and the values that they gave their children.
The other is the energy that was part of their body rejoins the world again, whether it is decomposing in the ground (sorry can't think of a nicer word than decomposing) or the ashes being scattered somewhere. Tiny bits of the person will become part of new life. I feel very comfortable with that concept.
(It's ashes to ashes dust to dust, I suppose! Maybe the bible does have some things right in it!)
The other is the energy that was part of their body rejoins the world again, whether it is decomposing in the ground (sorry can't think of a nicer word than decomposing) or the ashes being scattered somewhere. Tiny bits of the person will become part of new life. I feel very comfortable with that concept.
(It's ashes to ashes dust to dust, I suppose! Maybe the bible does have some things right in it!)