Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
 

I think you mean Germany?

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Are you for real or just pretending???

The UK would have to dump all long-standing relationships with the free world in terms of standing up for what's right, have a ZERO relationship with the US so no longer allies and no military cooperation. The UK would literally become an insignificant entity with nothing to do or say about anything in the world. Just like Switzerland. Is that what you want?

And all this for what exactly?

Kind of like Alabama leaving the US would be. In other words: completely POINTLESS and what's worse, with ZERO benefit to the leaving party.

Really? The UK is accessible by sea, so technically anyone could take on the UK on their own without stepping on anyone else's toes. Switzerland is land-locked, so nobody can attack Switzerland unless they decide to roll their troops through another country (or even countries) along the way.

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Yes. The Germans a renowned for their creativity. Siemens ..... zzzzzz ..... old mans club of German consistency.

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Iraq is landlocked, barring a small slither. Heard of aeroplanes?

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"The UK would literally become an insignificant entity with nothing to do or say about anything in the world. Just like Switzerland"

There is a no. of "insignificant" countries around on world. They do rather well. Heard of Singapore, Luxembourg, Liechtenstein, Andorra? To be "significant" has a high price. Question is if it is worth it to pay the price? Better do business with the world than with a few select buddies who tell you who you can be friends with.
BTW, I'm not a Brit.

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Britain has had a massive amount to do with the rest of the world in the past, and bestowed upon the world the gift of civilization. If you assume that Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales were doing as they were told by England, the world seems to be lumping all the blame ant hatred on England.

I reckon it's time for England to say 'stuff you' to an ungrateful world, stop apologizing for their existence, and start looking after themselves and become insignificant. Switzerland has fallen for the PC world view and as a result is the rape capital of the world, this is an incontrovertible fact and it is down to one thing, Islamists thinking that uncovered Western women are 'asking for it' The left ignores this, third wave feminists ignore this, because of this the far right is handed a platform and it makes my skin crawl.

Way to go off topic I know, but it's interlinked, to deny that is a massive disservice to our own values. Rant over, and it's more of an answer to all the virtue signalling on Facebook really if I'm honest, if I hear 'white men rape women too' as a defence I'm going to go nuts.

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https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/apr/06/michael-caine-voted-brexit-eu-freedom-not-immigrants-going-in-style-new-film

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Just on this alone, did you actually check any stats? Last year there were 588 rapes in Switzerland, which has a population of about 1/8th the UK. Want to make a guess as to whether or not the number of rapes in the UK were more or less 8 times the number of Swiss rapes?

Nevermind, I'll answer it for you - there are approximately 85,000 rapes where women are the victim and 12,000 rapes where men are the victim every year in the UK. If you just want to go on reported rapes, that figure would be around 35,000.

Remind me again - where is the rape capital? (I think that title goes to South Africa with the highest percentage of rapes per capita but I would have to check that.)

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Apologies, I'm an idiot, of course I meant Sweden not Swizerland, I'll hold my hand up and not edit my post. Now I have corrected it though, my rape capital assertion is correct is correct with respect to Europe, it's only second to South Africa in the world, so I suppose it's not that bad. The reasons behind it are correct too.

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That's okay - I gave the capital as South Africa but it might actually be Lesotho which is an independent country in South Africa. One thing to consider when reading these headlines though would be Sweden's definition of rape. Best story on this I can find is from a Canadian source - Sweden’s rape crisis isn’t what it seems - The Globe and Mail

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This just smacks of more apologism to me, even downgrading it to sexual assault doesn't forgive or explain the rise. I saw a Swedish report pretty much denying the lot. Now I concede that it may not be as black as it's painted, but it's a problem, a very big problem and no amount of redefining rape is going to change it. It needs to be tackled not swept under the carpet, and deporting 80,000 is a start and sends a clear message. The Cologne mass assault, the 1400 young girls sexually asaulted in Rotheram. They all have one thing in common, and I'll leave you to decide what that is. Radical Islam may not represent all Muslims, but mainly because most Muslims take parts of the Koran's teaching with a pinch of salt. They should take this a step further and recognize the whole thing for the stone age rubbish that it is.

A friend of mine worked in an abottoir, slaughtering lambs by breaking their necks, a fairly instant and humane death. Until 10 or so years ago when they went Halal. They started slitting their throats then hanging them up by one leg and letting them bleed out while writhing in agony. Now this is distasteful enough for me, but a father/son team turned up on site to check on the 'Halalness' of the place, the son was demonstrating to my mate the easiest way to do it, he had the knife and lamb at the ready. My mate asked this fella if there was anything he needed to say prior to or during the act of cutting its throat, he said 'Hasta la vista baby' as he was doing it.

Now I'm insulted enough by the fact that we've regressed as a society to accommodate a savage religion, but more so that this lad is still willing to carry out a barbaric act in spite of his slack attitude to his religion.

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Some people don't want to rock the multicultural boat and refuse to accept that there is a problem with elements of islam in Europe - head in the sand time unfortunately

Worry not though, the ethnic people of Europe are slowly awakening to the threat - and muslim assholes driving cars and trucks an into people and department stores are just making this awakening happen much faster

The time they are a changing - and the change is going to be ugly

Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
 

Whether they have their neck broken (non-halal), or throats slit (halal), they should be stunned before hand (halal does not require the animal to be conscious). However, both practices are barbaric and cruel and not something I would argue that western methods are better than eastern.

As for paedophilia, I think Catholics would be high up there. Rape is all religions, as with other forms of crime. I doubt very much the victim says 'for the police report later, could you tell me your religion'.

There are many cases that you could make about some aspects of Islam but the same is true for most religions, cultures, etc. Perhaps the highest common denominator is men, so do we banish all of you? Or ban all religion? And I don't pretend to know the answer, but neither am I willing to blindly blame all things I don't like on a political leaning, multiculturalism, PC, religious leanings, etc. but I do know spreading hate is never a good thing!

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That's the kind of PCness, rubbish that the world is rebelling against.

Whilst paedophilia is terrible in itself its not bigotry and its not murder and most importantly is not a growing club, not a place where the insecure can feel a part of something.

Where the Catholic church leadership and society have pushed this type of action into a corner where it can no longer be hidden nor accepted, radical Islam and its leadership have not sort to control its bad apples.

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I think you'll find that paedophilia is very much a growing club, aided and abetted by the internet and global communication. The Catholic church has chosen for many years to hide its shame, and still continues to do so in many ways.

There are many bad apples amongst western democracies - what are you suggesting we do to weed them out? To control them?

But all of this really has very little to do with whether or not the UK did the right thing in it's decision to leave the EU. Whether or not it will maintain some level of normality in its departure? How many of the existing EU laws will be enacted now in UK law?