View Poll Results: Brexit the aftermath, did the people of the UK vote correctly ?
Yes
43
40.95%
No
53
50.48%
Not more bloody navel gazing for gawd sakes !!!
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Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
Apr 6th 2017, 11:28 pm
#901
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Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
I'm not convinced that the UK economy will balloon but I also don't think it will collapse leaving us all in abject poverty......
Apr 7th 2017, 1:37 am
#902
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Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
Just offer what Switzerland offers to the rich, and money will pour in. Tell EU which only has 32 free trade agreements to get knotted and do your own agreements.
May be one day Brits will be as well of as the Swiss.
The figures come from an NZZ article.
Apr 7th 2017, 5:06 am
#903
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Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
Switzerland is completely neutral and even if the whole continent goes to war, nothing bad will happen in Switzerland. You know why? Because everyone keeps their money there. That's why it is safe.Just look at WW2. Germany. UK. France. Poland. Belgium. Many others. All were involved because they had to be. The Swiss simply kept everyone's money and were never touched. Nobody is going to torch their own piggybank.
Apr 7th 2017, 5:15 am
#904
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Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
Haha. Switzerland is completely neutral and even if the whole continent goes to war, nothing bad will happen in Switzerland. You know why? Because everyone keeps their money there. That's why it is safe.
Just look at WW2. Germany. UK. France. Poland. Belgium. Many others. All were involved because they had to be. The Swiss simply kept everyone's money and were never touched. Nobody is going to torch their own piggybank.
Switzerland is completely neutral and even if the whole continent goes to war, nothing bad will happen in Switzerland. You know why? Because everyone keeps their money there. That's why it is safe.Just look at WW2. Germany. UK. France. Poland. Belgium. Many others. All were involved because they had to be. The Swiss simply kept everyone's money and were never touched. Nobody is going to torch their own piggybank.
Apr 7th 2017, 5:19 am
#905
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Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
Oh right, the imaginary shackles! 
All this talk of the EU somehow limiting anyone is pure nonsense.
Of course if you are in the business of stealing, cheating or ripping people off, then EU law might in fact get in your way.
As a consumer you have to agree that EU law is absolutely second to none and even places like the US or Australia don't stand up for the consumer as much as the EU does.
Food-wise the US is a joke and the EU gives way more protection to people.
International roaming fees? Just look at how the EU has helped consumers across the continent at eliminating the absolutely ridiculous fees that haunted holidaymakers.
What about international travel and flights? Name one place on Earth that has better laws and protection for travellers when airlines mess up, cancel flights, have delays, etc.? SERIOUSLY PEOPLE. Who hates EU laws? Those who want you to have NO rights. NO compensation. NO say.
All this talk of the EU somehow limiting anyone is pure nonsense.Of course if you are in the business of stealing, cheating or ripping people off, then EU law might in fact get in your way.
As a consumer you have to agree that EU law is absolutely second to none and even places like the US or Australia don't stand up for the consumer as much as the EU does.
Food-wise the US is a joke and the EU gives way more protection to people.
International roaming fees? Just look at how the EU has helped consumers across the continent at eliminating the absolutely ridiculous fees that haunted holidaymakers.
What about international travel and flights? Name one place on Earth that has better laws and protection for travellers when airlines mess up, cancel flights, have delays, etc.? SERIOUSLY PEOPLE.
Who hates EU laws? Those who want you to have NO rights. NO compensation. NO say.
Apr 7th 2017, 9:54 am
#906
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Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
Oh right, the imaginary shackles! All this talk of the EU somehow limiting anyone is pure nonsense.
Of course if you are in the business of stealing, cheating or ripping people off, then EU law might in fact get in your way.
As a consumer you have to agree that EU law is absolutely second to none and even places like the US or Australia don't stand up for the consumer as much as the EU does.
Food-wise the US is a joke and the EU gives way more protection to people.
International roaming fees? Just look at how the EU has helped consumers across the continent at eliminating the absolutely ridiculous fees that haunted holidaymakers.
What about international travel and flights? Name one place on Earth that has better laws and protection for travellers when airlines mess up, cancel flights, have delays, etc.? SERIOUSLY PEOPLE. Who hates EU laws? Those who want you to have NO rights. NO compensation. NO say.
All this talk of the EU somehow limiting anyone is pure nonsense.Of course if you are in the business of stealing, cheating or ripping people off, then EU law might in fact get in your way.
As a consumer you have to agree that EU law is absolutely second to none and even places like the US or Australia don't stand up for the consumer as much as the EU does.
Food-wise the US is a joke and the EU gives way more protection to people.
International roaming fees? Just look at how the EU has helped consumers across the continent at eliminating the absolutely ridiculous fees that haunted holidaymakers.
What about international travel and flights? Name one place on Earth that has better laws and protection for travellers when airlines mess up, cancel flights, have delays, etc.? SERIOUSLY PEOPLE.
Who hates EU laws? Those who want you to have NO rights. NO compensation. NO say.
Apr 7th 2017, 9:57 am
#907
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Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
Neither am I, but the service industry will, and services are the biggest part of the UK economy by a long way. The UK, with a bit of clever thinking could be the global hub of services. Its already the finance and banking hub.
Apr 7th 2017, 10:15 am
#908
Dunroaming back in UK
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Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
Apr 7th 2017, 12:38 pm
#910
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Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
Rule Britannia, marmalade and jam....
Apr 7th 2017, 1:47 pm
#911
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Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
I have done research on it - I live in Scotland. The only time it could be argued that Scotland gives more than receives is with oil and gas revenue counted. However, as a resources specialist, I find that pretty funny given that for a number of years, the only real money making from the North Sea is from the fields drilled in international waters and landed in Hull.
The other area being Shetland, however, that is, at current prices not making much. A number of fields within the North Sea in water that could be regarded as Scottish are currently costing the tax payer money in tax write offs.
The other area being Shetland, however, that is, at current prices not making much. A number of fields within the North Sea in water that could be regarded as Scottish are currently costing the tax payer money in tax write offs.
You claim to have researched the Scots economy but have only lived there for a very short time and I'm sure you haven't spent too much time researching. Have you read the McCrone report which Westminster hid for more than 30 years? It has only been seen very recently. According to your research the English MPs and Treasury were lying when they said Scotland has not been subsidised. I don't know when the myth of being subsidised it going to disappear. Anyway, as my final contribution to this thread I will ask you a question that I have asked before , with no answer given. I think that we can agree that Westminster is not a philanthropic organisation. Why, therefore,has that government gone to such lengths to to keep Scotland in the Union if it has been a drain on its scarce resources?
Apr 7th 2017, 2:35 pm
#912
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Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
To put some perspective on the UK leaving the EU - Australia is wealthier than the UK in virtually every aspect used to measure the wealth and well-being of nations - and we have done all our trade deals by ourselves
Yes, the UK has risen out out of the socialist destruction of the '50's to '70's and membership of the EU has helped this rise to a degree but the main factor for the success of the UK since the '80's was the government of Margaret Thatcher with it's free-market and union and socialist busting policies. Even the socialist Blair/Brown governments kept much of her agenda intact, thereby ensuring continued relative economic success
Yes, the UK has risen out out of the socialist destruction of the '50's to '70's and membership of the EU has helped this rise to a degree but the main factor for the success of the UK since the '80's was the government of Margaret Thatcher with it's free-market and union and socialist busting policies. Even the socialist Blair/Brown governments kept much of her agenda intact, thereby ensuring continued relative economic success
Apr 7th 2017, 4:06 pm
#913
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Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
Haha. Switzerland is completely neutral and even if the whole continent goes to war, nothing bad will happen in Switzerland. You know why? Because everyone keeps their money there. That's why it is safe.
Just look at WW2. Germany. UK. France. Poland. Belgium. Many others. All were involved because they had to be. The Swiss simply kept everyone's money and were never touched. Nobody is going to torch their own piggybank.
Switzerland is completely neutral and even if the whole continent goes to war, nothing bad will happen in Switzerland. You know why? Because everyone keeps their money there. That's why it is safe.Just look at WW2. Germany. UK. France. Poland. Belgium. Many others. All were involved because they had to be. The Swiss simply kept everyone's money and were never touched. Nobody is going to torch their own piggybank.
Brexit is a fresh start for U.K. Best time to change. Suisse is surrounded by mountains, U.K. is surrounded by water, even better isolated. Suisse has trade deals with many countries outside the EU and with China since 2014. Plus access to EU market. They don't give in to EU but stand up to them. Recent EU attempt to force them to allow EU court to meddle in Swiss legal system.
It won't happen.
Apr 7th 2017, 8:17 pm
#914
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Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
Swiss are still members of the Schengen area, enact EU law and pay the contribution for single market access. Theresa May has ruled that out very early for Britain.
Apr 8th 2017, 1:17 am
#915
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Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.
Despite their payments they do rather well, and they have many other FTAs which EU had to accept.
Schengen yes, but they don't appear to have the problems other countries seem to have. They attract top academics i.e. people they want.
