Amazulu

I'm enjoying (well not really) reading all the comments from posters who somehow don't agree with a democratic decision

All I see is a government implementing the will of the people

astera

You mean the Scottish gov't trying to give the people their say?

Amazulu

no

astera

Right, I forgot.

The will of the people does not apply when it doesn't fit the limited, right-wing agenda.

Garbatellamike

no again

astera

Right on cue to validate my argument.

scrubbedexpat098

Sturgeon's got one agenda only, the will of many Scots is that she shuts up and gets on with running the bloody country.

Garbatellamike

still no - sigh

Amazulu

What the hell are you blathering on about?

The Scots had a vote and rejected independence. If they are going to ignore that and have another vote them that's up to the Scottish and UK governments, but like Brexit, not a good idea

The British people voted for Brexit. A mistake IMO but ignoring their decision would be an even bigger mistake

Democracy at work - build a bridge and get over it. Then again, democracy and the left rarely go hand in hand

astera

That was before Brexit. Circumstances have changed.

Even though the Scottish gov't has already stated its will of holding another referendum in light of Brixit, the wraith at No 10 is now afraid of "the will of the people" and is single-handedly trying to block it for years...

A new referendum could pave the way for Scottish independence and quick, seamless entry into the EU. The people shouldn't be held hostage by Teresa May but should be allowed their say, especially as they voted to stay in the EU and the UK gov't is forcing them out against their will.

Not very democratic to stifle the voice of the Scottish people.

scrubbedexpat098

Are we really in a place where we're going to keep em voting til we get the decision we want? They knew there was an EU vote on the horizon, they should have waited til that referendum was done and dusted before they had their own, but they didn't. Sturgeon is always playing the Braveheartesque victim, but the fact is that she's a one trick pony unlikely to be capable of running a country. There's no guarantee of free uni spots in the EU, and that's a clincher for many, I wonder if the SNP will want 16 and 17 year olds to vote in light of that.

Amazulu

Dude, you're arguing with yourself

The Scottish people voted to remain in the UK

The British people voted to leave the EU

In future, the Scots may have another vote for independence - doesn't change the fact that the British people voted for Brexit. Both bad ideas IMO but the people have decided/will decide

Move on

Beoz

That's the way the left roll. Same with Trump - "not my president" and all that jazz.

Well guess what, he is.

I'm sure there's plenty out there researching their asses off for an impeachment or something. ........ still waiting........ zzzzzzzzzzz.

OzTennis

Oversimplified version. 'Democracy' voted to leave the EU; 'Democracy' did not say how and when this would happen (Cameron's fault for putting a simple yes or no question and very little discussion on how Brexit would be enacted by either side). Did 'democracy' vote for a hard or soft Brexit? Did 'democracy' vote for the role of parliament in the exit procedure or not? The referendum result did not put flesh on the bones; hence the protracted court cases, when to trigger Article 50, part of or completely out of the single market etc.

The British people overall voted leave but Scotland and Northern Ireland didn't. This is the basis of Sturgeon's claim (which I don't support but am explaining why) for a 2nd referendum. 'Democracy' in Scotland didn't vote out of the EU so hence the calls for Indy 2 (and if leave the union; a bid for membership of the other union). Things are rarely as simple as black or white.

Amazulu

Details

The British people voted to leave the EU. End of. It is up to the government of the day to decide how they want to implement this decision. They will live or die by how they do this at the next election. That's how it works in a democracy champ

A 2nd Scotch referendum is up to the governments of the UK and Scotland to decide on. The Westminster government is well within their right to deny another vote and any move by Scotland to ignore that and go for independence is a virtual UDI and the EU would take a dim view of it