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GarryP Feb 15th 2013 7:06 pm

Re: Aussie rips offs
 

Originally Posted by bcworld (Post 10548796)
I don't think the message is about quality. It's about 'local' jobs etc...buying unaustralian is traitorous regardless of how much you are being gouged. I'm not sure many people actually take any notice. Some claim to be all true blue but they're then down their local discount store buying Colgate from Indonesia or washing up liquid from the Philippines with English language stickers stuck on by an importer!

But advertisers aren't supposed to be idiots (at least, that the line they sell).

If people don't really give a flying **** about local jobs, then continuing to stick "Australian Made" on it just becomes code, as paulry says, for 'bend over and take it fool'.

And anyway, you are supposed to sell the sizzle, not the sausage. So you should be selling 'fresh' or 'tailored' - not that some bogan can continue to work on a production line.

paulry Feb 15th 2013 7:20 pm

Re: Aussie rips offs
 

Originally Posted by GarryP (Post 10548791)
I'm trying to work out when 'Australian made' could ever have become synonymous with 'quality' in the aussie mind?

I mean, have they ever had a tradition, an expectation, that would say a product was of high quality because it was produced in Oz?
German > engineering - yep, we know there is a connection (however much its not true anymore).

Japan > cheap, high tech - or at least it was

Even French > Cuisine - although most people would send a meal back if it had snails in it.
But Australian > Rough and Ready - at least that's the association I get.

So why would you advertise as Australian Made as a positive attribute? Give me New Zealand lamb over Australian any day.


Originally Posted by bcworld (Post 10548796)
I don't think the message is about quality. It's about 'local' jobs etc...buying unaustralian is traitorous regardless of how much you are being gouged. I'm not sure many people actually take any notice. Some claim to be all true blue but they're then down their local discount store buying Colgate from Indonesia or washing up liquid from the Philippines with English language stickers stuck on by an importer!

Bcworld is right, it's about local jobs, etc. And yes agreed I don't think anyone pays much attention to it anymore - especially when many are a bit squeezed.

I think the "buy Australian" thing has it's roots back into the 90's where there was a big push to do just that. When I first visited Aus in the late 90s everywhere you went there seemed to be the "Buy Australian" rallying cry. But that was when the prices for things weren't so high. Back then Aus produced excellent quality t-shirts, but haven't seen any since we've moved here.

The rugged claim I think is a bit of the con because I haven't seen much to be rougher and tougher than anywhere else I have lived. Except the women that is - there are many here who are as tough as old boots.

chris955 Feb 15th 2013 7:41 pm

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Just look at that idiot Dick Smith, he claims literally anything from overseas is inferior. Some believe him but I would like to think most people have a brain and see through his xenophobia and parochial rhetoric.

cresta57 Feb 15th 2013 7:47 pm

Re: Aussie rips offs
 

Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 10548831)
Just look at that idiot Dick Smith, he claims literally anything from overseas is inferior. Some believe him but I would like to think most people have a brain and see through his xenophobia and parochial rhetoric.

I don't think he's an idiot, he took on the duopoly of coles & woolies in order to keep Australian farmers on their land.
There is a danger that with the big two continually cutting the cost of sourcing produce most farmers will go to the wall. Bad for Australia & bad for consumers. I expect to pay a fair price for fresh produce & I expect local growers to get a fair price. It irks that Coles & Woolies prosper while their primary producers go to the wall in droves.

GarryP Feb 15th 2013 7:48 pm

Re: Aussie rips offs
 

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 10548815)
The rugged claim I think is a bit of the con because I haven't seen much to be rougher and tougher than anywhere else I have lived.

Yeah, I didn't say it was true, I said it was something you would automatically associate. For instance, Sony tend to have a reputation for reliability with the general public, despite having a horrible reliability record. Some memes stick.


Originally Posted by paulry (Post 10548815)
Except the women that is - there are many here who are as tough as old boots.

There is a man that likes to live life on the edge, taking chances, heedless of the danger he walks into .....

chris955 Feb 15th 2013 7:51 pm

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Originally Posted by cresta57 (Post 10548841)
I don't think he's an idiot, he took on the duopoly of coles & woolies in order to keep Australian farmers on their land.
There is a danger that with the big two continually cutting the cost of sourcing produce most farmers will go to the wall. Bad for Australia & bad for consumers. I expect to pay a fair price for fresh produce & I expect local growers to get a fair price. It irks that Coles & Woolies prosper while their primary producers go to the wall in droves.

He is an idiot for the way he goes about things, his ONLY form of advertising seems to 'we are Australian so we are better'.

RedDragon2008 Feb 15th 2013 8:14 pm

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Originally Posted by bcworld (Post 10548796)
English language stickers stuck on by an importer!

I wonder if the "If you dont like it " Off" stickers are made in OZ??:sneaky: just saying

Wol Feb 15th 2013 8:21 pm

Re: Aussie rips offs
 

Originally Posted by cresta57 (Post 10548841)
I don't think he's an idiot, he took on the duopoly of coles & woolies in order to keep Australian farmers on their land.
There is a danger that with the big two continually cutting the cost of sourcing produce most farmers will go to the wall. Bad for Australia & bad for consumers. I expect to pay a fair price for fresh produce & I expect local growers to get a fair price. It irks that Coles & Woolies prosper while their primary producers go to the wall in droves.

I don't know how they've got the nerve to be "the fresh food people" - we keep getting fruit that's gone off inside, bananas that have to be thrown away, bread that is half stale when opened and so on. Last week I took back an apple that was brown inside, they refunded and gave me new ones - which were brown inside.

The attitude is always "yes, it's rotten - but you are unAustralian for complaining about it."

BadgeIsBack Feb 15th 2013 8:43 pm

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Originally Posted by Wol (Post 10548888)
I don't know how they've got the nerve to be "the fresh food people" - we keep getting fruit that's gone off inside, bananas that have to be thrown away, bread that is half stale when opened and so on. Last week I took back an apple that was brown inside, they refunded and gave me new ones - which were brown inside.

The attitude is always "yes, it's rotten - but you are unAustralian for complaining about it."

Did they say that?
I suspect they think it's not 'country'.....or they think that as you live in a country town you will make yourself look like a grumpy old git....and get people's backs up.... can they tell an apple is brown inside..?

Ozzidoc Feb 15th 2013 8:44 pm

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Originally Posted by ozzieeagle (Post 10536950)
LOL.... I just phoned them, so interested was I in my own question.... Cancelled my own opticians appointment for tomorrow and am going to specsavers Brunswick.

They have the capacity to save me 200 bucks on the lenses alone.... plus I get a free pair. Their price for the 1.67 lenses in multi focals as above is 530 bucks. Although they are Pentax Lenses, which I'm fairly sure isn't as good as I have now.... although the name of the manufacture I have now escapes me. I do know I had two choices last time around and was told that the ones I have are more scratch resistant than the Pentax.

I'm not going to argue with 200 bucks cheaper and a free pair though.

www.goggles4u.com

even cheaper :)

BadgeIsBack Feb 15th 2013 8:52 pm

Re: Aussie rips offs
 

Originally Posted by GarryP (Post 10548791)
I'm trying to work out when 'Australian made' could ever have become synonymous with 'quality' in the aussie mind?

I mean, have they ever had a tradition, an expectation, that would say a product was of high quality because it was produced in Oz?
German > engineering - yep, we know there is a connection (however much its not true anymore).

Japan > cheap, high tech - or at least it was

Even French > Cuisine - although most people would send a meal back if it had snails in it.
But Australian > Rough and Ready - at least that's the association I get.

So why would you advertise as Australian Made as a positive attribute? Give me New Zealand lamb over Australian any day.

It seems to be a sort pride or local jobs thing. There's also a thing where people like to promote local crafts or produce..there is a market for it.
You pay a premium for the cute factor.

There are Aussie goods that were reasonable, some ride on equipment, garden stuff and it is still sold as being an option to Made In China....

Wol Feb 15th 2013 8:55 pm

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Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 10548915)
Did they say that?
I suspect they think it's not 'country'.....or they think that as you live in a country town you will make yourself look like a grumpy old git....and get people's backs up.... can they tell an apple is brown inside..?

I don't follow your train of thought?

cresta57 Feb 15th 2013 9:01 pm

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Originally Posted by Wol (Post 10548934)
I don't follow your train of thought?

I think maybe Ozzy Osbourne had a hit with it:tape:

irishbloo Feb 15th 2013 9:08 pm

Re: Aussie rips offs
 

Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 10548800)
I just bought a digital cooking thermometer off Amazon....about half an hour ago.

On Amazon UK it cost me $69 delivered from the UK.

On Amazon Australia the cost was $94 delivered from the UK

Same thermometer..Guess which I ordered?

How does that work???

I think you stick it in to the chicken and it tells you if its cooked or not.:D

Grayling Feb 15th 2013 9:30 pm

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Originally Posted by irishbloo (Post 10548943)
I think you stick it in to the chicken and it tells you if its cooked or not.:D

:lol:


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