What the hell am I doing wrong?
Mar 5th 2006 | 6:48 pm
#181
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Mar 5th 2006 | 7:07 pm
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Re: What the hell am I doing wrong?
Originally Posted by Hels
Dead horse??? Flog it baby....... 
Mar 5th 2006 | 9:15 pm
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Re: What the hell am I doing wrong?
I'm inclined to agree that this thread has probably run its course, by which of course I mean that all the arguments come full circle and we all agree to disagree and wait with baited breath for Arkon's next post so we can all take sides again.
But....
As I was driving back from the school run, it occurred to me that the problem is probably a fairly simple one. People compare and contrast the UK and Australia, some negatively, some positively and some just pragmatically. I think the problem stems from the fact that we become blase about the network of businesses and friends we build up over the course of many years in our old homes. I moved from Bath up to the Cotswolds five years ago and had a singularly painful couple of years getting ripped off by all manner of tradies, garages and shops, because I didn't know who was good, who was bad, who could be trusted, who over-charged, who'd turn up etc etc etc. I'd say I'd had a time every bit as hellish as Arkon has in Australia and it was all because I'd moved away from the area I knew and had to take pot-luck with the people I hired because all I had was the Yellow Pages and nobody to give me personal recommendations. As time's gone on I've found out who can be trusted, although I've yet to find a builder who's not an ignorant wanker and won't stitch me up. Obviously if there was an Ozzie Expats site on which I could whinge about every minor set-back of my life and how I'd been fleeced by a never-ending succession of English tradies then I'd have done it ...
But....
As I was driving back from the school run, it occurred to me that the problem is probably a fairly simple one. People compare and contrast the UK and Australia, some negatively, some positively and some just pragmatically. I think the problem stems from the fact that we become blase about the network of businesses and friends we build up over the course of many years in our old homes. I moved from Bath up to the Cotswolds five years ago and had a singularly painful couple of years getting ripped off by all manner of tradies, garages and shops, because I didn't know who was good, who was bad, who could be trusted, who over-charged, who'd turn up etc etc etc. I'd say I'd had a time every bit as hellish as Arkon has in Australia and it was all because I'd moved away from the area I knew and had to take pot-luck with the people I hired because all I had was the Yellow Pages and nobody to give me personal recommendations. As time's gone on I've found out who can be trusted, although I've yet to find a builder who's not an ignorant wanker and won't stitch me up. Obviously if there was an Ozzie Expats site on which I could whinge about every minor set-back of my life and how I'd been fleeced by a never-ending succession of English tradies then I'd have done it ...
Mar 5th 2006 | 9:23 pm
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Re: What the hell am I doing wrong?
>>I'm inclined to agree that this thread has probably run its course, by which of course I mean that all the arguments come full circle and we all agree to disagree and wait with baited breath for Arkon's next post so we can all take sides again.<<
Lovely example of how misspelling can change the whole meaning of a sentence! <g>
(Perhaps Ark won't bite?)
Lovely example of how misspelling can change the whole meaning of a sentence! <g>
(Perhaps Ark won't bite?)
Mar 5th 2006 | 9:30 pm
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Re: What the hell am I doing wrong?
Originally Posted by Wol
>>I'm inclined to agree that this thread has probably run its course, by which of course I mean that all the arguments come full circle and we all agree to disagree and wait with baited breath for Arkon's next post so we can all take sides again.<<
Lovely example of how misspelling can change the whole meaning of a sentence! <g>
(Perhaps Ark won't bite?)
Lovely example of how misspelling can change the whole meaning of a sentence! <g>
(Perhaps Ark won't bite?)
Mar 5th 2006 | 9:31 pm
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Re: What the hell am I doing wrong?
Originally Posted by Hutch
I give up Rog, what did I misspell ?
Mar 5th 2006 | 9:32 pm
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Re: What the hell am I doing wrong?
Originally Posted by Hutch
I give up Rog, what did I misspell ?
Nope, I can't see it either
Mar 5th 2006 | 9:34 pm
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Re: What the hell am I doing wrong?
Originally Posted by fraser
Baited maybe
v. bait·ed, bait·ing, baits
v. tr.
1. To place a lure in (a trap) or on (a fishing hook).
2. To entice, especially by trickery or strategy.
Mar 5th 2006 | 9:34 pm
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Re: What the hell am I doing wrong?
Changed the subject though, didn't it? <g>
Mar 5th 2006 | 9:35 pm
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Re: What the hell am I doing wrong?
Originally Posted by Wol
Changed the subject though, didn't it? <g>
Mar 5th 2006 | 9:36 pm
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Re: What the hell am I doing wrong?
Originally Posted by Wol
Changed the subject though, didn't it? <g>
Mar 6th 2006 | 12:23 am
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Re: What the hell am I doing wrong?
Originally Posted by Hutch
Hmmm ... nope that's okay ...
or not...
Usage Note: The word baited is sometimes incorrectly substituted for the etymologically correct but unfamiliar word bated (“abated; suspendedâ€) in the expression bated breath.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=bated
Last edited by elfman; Mar 6th 2006 at 12:42 am.
Mar 6th 2006 | 7:47 am
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Re: What the hell am I doing wrong?
My favourite was "British humor" given in an earlier post. Isn't that American?
Just helping to change the subject
Just helping to change the subject
Mar 6th 2006 | 8:13 am
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Re: What the hell am I doing wrong?
Originally Posted by phoenixinoz
See .....you're a good example of a good Aussie Sheila
Are you trying to insult me??? There is nothing good about me at all!!!!
Mar 6th 2006 | 10:51 am
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Re: What the hell am I doing wrong?
Originally Posted by cresta57
That is exactly the point I'm making Robyn. To me race is genetically defined scientifically i.e Mongol, Asian, African or Aboriginal. Maybe there is a better word to describe large groups of different races living together in one country. I think the word racism and the the actual meaning of race have become embroiled in political correctness. To me yes calling a Welshman arrogant & stupid would in the politically correct sense of todays world be considered a racist remark.
However to say that someone is an Australian by race is not genetically correct unless they are of Aboriginal origin. Someone who is 4th 5th or even 10th generation born immigrants to a country will still be genetically African Asian or Northern European that does not make them any less Australian than say in your example of a person of Pakistani origins who's grandparents were immigrants to the U.K the child will be British undoubtedly yet in terms or race will still be Asian. You can't decide your going to create a new race by defining a specific point in time though you can add a bit of spice to the gene pool by different races combining and reproducing until as has happened in the U.K you can't visually define Angles Saxons Normans etc.
Someone said to me the other day "you may have an Australian born Grand Daughter but your still a Pommie". Is that a racist remark? I live here as do my Parents my Daughter and Grand Daughter. Are we Australian by race? No! but my Grand Daughter is Australian by birth. I hope she grows up to be fiercely patriotic to Australia and everything that entails.
All that aside some of the comments made on this thread are quite clearly derogatory.
However to say that someone is an Australian by race is not genetically correct unless they are of Aboriginal origin. Someone who is 4th 5th or even 10th generation born immigrants to a country will still be genetically African Asian or Northern European that does not make them any less Australian than say in your example of a person of Pakistani origins who's grandparents were immigrants to the U.K the child will be British undoubtedly yet in terms or race will still be Asian. You can't decide your going to create a new race by defining a specific point in time though you can add a bit of spice to the gene pool by different races combining and reproducing until as has happened in the U.K you can't visually define Angles Saxons Normans etc.
Someone said to me the other day "you may have an Australian born Grand Daughter but your still a Pommie". Is that a racist remark? I live here as do my Parents my Daughter and Grand Daughter. Are we Australian by race? No! but my Grand Daughter is Australian by birth. I hope she grows up to be fiercely patriotic to Australia and everything that entails.
All that aside some of the comments made on this thread are quite clearly derogatory.
