If he's flying into the UK - you probably won't have to arrange anything ...

or better yet, arrange these things for when he wants to return to Oz from the UK?! *think that's enough smilies?*

Mrs JTL

I'm not sure he "wants" to return

We all effectively had "pops" at you, as your comments were a little bit biased / racist ?, eg: Australians specialise in giving the wrong information and many others.

Also note that you had made 29 posts previous to that, not 4 !

There were 5 people on that list, and you did say most, but as usual you didn't specify anything, therefore how was anyone to know exactly who you were NOT referring to.

You say I got "upset". Annoyed at the beginning may be a better word, as you have a habit of insulting relation's of mine. When you insult Australians as a whole, you must expect to come under critisism. But then you call those people "immature idiots" when it is actually you that should be under that classification.

If I turn around and say that the British are useless, etc etc, in the same way that you do about Australians, how do you think it would go down ? I would not do that, even though I think a few are, as I feel that I would be stupid moron to generalise like that.

I am not even annoyed with you these days though, as it is impossible to be annoyed with a person like yourself, when all you now do is create a laugh, with your obvious comments.

However, I do like to try to correct some information for others, (like some others do) who may not be aware of your actual location and therefore understand why most of your comments should be taken with a pinch of salt, unless of course they live in the same situation as yourself.

The UK is not a bad place to live for many people, and it sounds like it may fix all your problems

Not sure where you get your definition of a racist but here it is from my world:-

racist, racialist
a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others

discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion
discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion

Definition of Race:-

1. A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics.
2. A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race.


Although Australians might very loosely be classed as a race based on the 2nd part of the race definition, in my view as most Australians are direct descendents of the British they hardly constitute another race.

Also, How come if people on here slag off the UK or the British then that’s OK, but dare anyone point out the flaws in Australia and Australian society then they are a racist bigot. By my reckoning by calling me a racist bigot you are in fact name calling, a practice usually reserved for the school playground.

Arkon..... I forgot to say....

If you said that SOME Australians were morons, I would agree with you, as I am sure many others would.



And, if you can let me have the names of the absolute stupid Australian morons that authorised your visa, I will happily hunt them down and ensure they are brought to the justice that they deserve .

Many people point out the flaws in Australia, and are not critisised, because they point out the specific flaws. You however, just like to say how bad Australia and Australians are, in general, which is WRONG.

When you attack the country as a whole............. You are attacking the Australian race. ie: racism.

You may not understand that you do, and I now understand why you don't, but if you could read what you right, you may understand how it comes across.

Well if you should find out who they are then maybe you could ask them for our medicals that they lost, of why it took 3 years to get a skilled migration visa when the wife is a qualified paramedic, Biology & Psychology and I am a skilled Computer systems analyst both under 35 when the application started, speaking English Also why after being accepted by NOOSR both of us would have to go though a lengthy, costly re-application to get those same skills recognized so that we can get a full paying job?

Yep you’re right they must have been morons. But I think I was the bigger moron for spending all that money and effort to get here.

Australia probably the only country in the world with skills shortages that put any and every obstacle in the path of new immigrants. Go figure….

And you blame every Australian for it, instead of just those responsible.

No I don't blame every Australian for it, but this was just so typical of what i've encountered here in my first year.

What-ho old chap, since I'm obviously now British & not Australian it must be those damned aboriginals that you are calling stupid.

As you were, carry on .

I think you misunderstand, You might not be British but are no doubt infact Australian. I can't find a single definition of race that says its due to being a citizen of another country. If you were an Asian with Australian citizenship and permenent residence you would still be from the Asian race and not Australian. Either I've got it totally wrong in which case I will amend my view or you've got it wrong and are infact still whatever race you were made up from years ago, (unless ofcourse there has been some mixing of the race genes in your heritage)

What the .......??!??! It's got nothing to do with being a citizen per se, even your own definition above defined it as
.

Nationality is defined as
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Pretty sure thats what Australia (& Australians) are! So we classify as a race on that count. We are also a group of people classified by geographic distribution (since we all live on the one island last time I checked). And of course we share a common history - some more recent than others, but it still is a common history.


According to your somewhat twisted definition, you are only a different race if you have a different skin colour. So everyone who is white belongs to one race. Or is it only if you are white & speak english? Wonder if anyone has told the other white english speaking countries of the world?

BTW, wrt your comment about slagging off the UK, I have never slagged off the UK & I dont have much time for those who do. Just like I dont have much time for those who slag off Australia, especially with generalised comments about how crap the entire country & it's people is.

We could argue this one all year, but I know your wrong and its just wishful thinking on your part. I mentioned the Cornish who about 20 years ago petitioned to be classed as a separate race, They too lived mostly in a common geographical region but the verdict came back as a unanimous no. I’ve since asked 3 old colleagues their opinion who between them have more degree’s than a thermometer and they too are a unanimous no. If you were to mix your genes up over the next few hundred years then maybe then you could be considered a new race. By your reckoning my son is now a new race and different from me!

And obviously because they have degrees, they are all the most intelligent, intellectual beings on the planet - I think not