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Safin Jan 28th 2009 2:24 pm

Re: Migration to Oz - Hard Facts
 

Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 7224057)
I agree with that but many who go on a 457 visa, such as nurses, would be able to get PR relatively easily anyway.

Many are simply too impulsive and impatient to wait the extra few weeks it might take.

G

They have to be mad! I can't wait to get off it.

Grayling Jan 28th 2009 2:25 pm

Re: Migration to Oz - Hard Facts
 

Originally Posted by Safin (Post 7224061)
They have to be mad! I can't wait to get off it.

Hope it all goes smoothly then

G

highersights Jan 28th 2009 2:27 pm

Re: Migration to Oz - Hard Facts
 

Originally Posted by peterh (Post 7223258)
If you sell up and move to Oz you will NOT get LAFHA.

I have two friends who did exactly that (sold up completely in UK) and have had LAFHA for the duration of their visas. They may be anomalies though.

Dorothy Jan 28th 2009 3:01 pm

Re: Migration to Oz - Hard Facts
 

Originally Posted by highersights (Post 7224072)
I have two friends who did exactly that (sold up completely in UK) and have had LAFHA for the duration of their visas. They may be anomalies though.

Not anomalies. More the norm, I would say. LAHFA is for people who are just that...Living Away From Home.

Pomster Jan 28th 2009 3:58 pm

Re: Migration to Oz - Hard Facts
 
We came on a 457 visa.
I was really concerned about managing financially and researched it before I accepted the job/visa.
My employer gave me LAFHA, which was very nice- you did not need to own a home overseas, just declare it was your job which made you live 'here' and therefore are eligible for LAFHA.
Recipricol Medicare was granted- in fact for emergency treatment I understood that you could not use private cover.

We - not single, 24year olds!- managed fine.
Employer would not sponsor PR, so we did that on our own. Of course with this LAFHA goes out the window, but we are still OK.

Not sure why your journey has been so hard....medical was not a problem for us, even visiting the dr was on medicare (although we paid out of pocket)

Pollyana Jan 28th 2009 5:40 pm

Re: Migration to Oz - Hard Facts
 

Originally Posted by ChrisJM (Post 7223727)
and who isnt much happier here,


Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 7223735)
Quite a few

You took the words out of my mouth :D


Originally Posted by peterh (Post 7223747)
There are some people on here posting things which are misleading - see LAFHA. You don't 'need' to have a home only 'need an address' in the UK - do you think the ATO are that stupid? You fail to say exactly what your do 'need, what the circumstances are, or how you got LAFHA, but I would suggest you are talking about completely different circumstances altogether to mine, so butt out!

LAFHA is claimable by many Australians, actually. It is an allowance for Living Away From Home - nothing to do with having a home in the UK really.


Originally Posted by peterh (Post 7220542)

It will not seem like 'home' for a long time - 12-48 months some people say.

Five years, 90 days and counting.........

Pollyana Jan 28th 2009 5:43 pm

Re: Migration to Oz - Hard Facts
 
Mods hat on here - I should advise people looking at applying for a visa to be very careful with some of the info in this thread. I don't mean the subjective info about living here, I am referring to the visa rules and regs, when you can apply for PR from a 457 and that sort of thing.
Some - not all - of the info in here is definitely not "hard facts" and should not be used as advice when deciding which visa to apply for.

Dorothy Jan 28th 2009 6:10 pm

Re: Migration to Oz - Hard Facts
 

Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 7224453)
LAFHA is claimable by many Australians, actually. It is an allowance for Living Away From Home - nothing to do with having a home in the UK really.

Right you are. When we were living in Adelaide and the old man was living/working over here in Perth he was eligible for it, but because we were planning to move over within a short time he didn't pursue it with his employer.

Grayling Jan 28th 2009 6:11 pm

Re: Migration to Oz - Hard Facts
 

Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 7224504)
Right you are. When we were living in Adelaide and the old man was living/working over here in Perth he was eligible for it, but because we were planning to move over within a short time he didn't pursue it with his employer.

It is also not automatic it has to be negotiated with the employer.

many are arkward about it

G

Dorothy Jan 28th 2009 6:14 pm

Re: Migration to Oz - Hard Facts
 

Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 7224506)
It is also not automatic it has to be negotiated with the employer.

many are arkward about it

G

OH works for a very large multinational company who sponsor lots of people. They do it, but like I said, home was going to be Perth after a very short time anyway, so he didn't bother.

Grayling Jan 28th 2009 6:23 pm

Re: Migration to Oz - Hard Facts
 

Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 7224512)
OH works for a very large multinational company who sponsor lots of people. They do it, but like I said, home was going to be Perth after a very short time anyway, so he didn't bother.

Sure....I was making a general point.

G

hottroc Jan 29th 2009 11:20 am

Re: Migration to Oz - Hard Facts
 

Originally Posted by peterh (Post 7220542)
...do you have a crafty immigration agent working for you?

I'm still trying to find a crafty one if you can make any recommendations, most of them only seem to want dead-certs.

plantpot Jan 29th 2009 1:39 pm

Re: Migration to Oz - Hard Facts
 
1. all medical exam costs associated with migration on a 457 Not our experience
1.b. all medical costs associated with employment no
2. your air fare, of course (most employers dont help)[COLOR="red"]This was paid for/COLOR]
3. all immigration fees No fees paid by us
4. all immigration agent fees, if you use one NO
5. removals fees, storage and duties and immigration inspection fees, fees and more fees....] None paid

This wasn't our experience, we don't work for a large multinational, have a child, and had no other option really, it was 457 or no job and as the job started asap we came....PR will come later if thats what we decide we want and want to stay..... I think experiences on a 457 ARE different dep on circumstance , jobs etc but like you say it IS better to be aware of what 'might' happen and be prepared.

suzanne7575 Jan 29th 2009 6:49 pm

Re: Migration to Oz - Hard Facts
 

Originally Posted by plantpot (Post 7227957)
1. all medical exam costs associated with migration on a 457 Not our experience
1.b. all medical costs associated with employment no
2. your air fare, of course (most employers dont help)[COLOR="red"]This was paid for/COLOR]
3. all immigration fees No fees paid by us
4. all immigration agent fees, if you use one NO
5. removals fees, storage and duties and immigration inspection fees, fees and more fees....] None paid

This wasn't our experience, we don't work for a large multinational, have a child, and had no other option really, it was 457 or no job and as the job started asap we came....PR will come later if thats what we decide we want and want to stay..... I think experiences on a 457 ARE different dep on circumstance , jobs etc but like you say it IS better to be aware of what 'might' happen and be prepared.

i don't qualify for a PR visa due to not working more than 20 hours per week in the last 12 months. I have been offered a job in cairns with QLD helath and they want to sponsor me for 457 visa and then sponsor me for PR once i am there. There reasoning is that it takes much longer to do PR from the start and they need us there working and once you are there and working you then don't need to go through ANMC for skills assessment for the ENS visa therefore it is still quicker to do it this way so everyone wins.

I think the official line is that they sponsor for PR after 3 months but they said to me that they would put the nomination in straight away once i was there so hopefully it wouldn't be too long iuntil the application could go in and not too long before PR granted, and as i will be working full time and know it is a pretty secure job that we can manage on the 457 until then.

my understanding o the reciprocal agreement is that you have the a UK citizen and have been living there for x amount of years to get reciprocal agreement, therefore even if you have a UK passport but lived in spain for 5 years before moving to Oz you wouldn't be entitled....is this correct?

ABCDiamond Jan 29th 2009 7:01 pm

Re: Migration to Oz - Hard Facts
 

Originally Posted by suzanne7575 (Post 7228517)
my understanding o the reciprocal agreement is that you have the a UK citizen and have been living there for x amount of years to get reciprocal agreement, therefore even if you have a UK passport but lived in spain for 5 years before moving to Oz you wouldn't be entitled....is this correct?

The website quotes: "If you are a resident of the United Kingdom, Sweden, Finland, Norway or the Netherlands you are covered for the duration of your approved visit to Australia"

You should email them to double check, but it makes no mention of a period of time.


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