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Old Mar 15th 2010 | 8:30 pm
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Originally Posted by GarryP
Oh, and there as all that new 3D content from the cinemas, and they are adding 3D to old as we speak.
I think the big push for 3D at the moment has more to do with a push for a product that's difficult to pirate. The movies studios will love 3D; for a while.
 
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Originally Posted by GarryP
The data content required for true holographic TV is frightening. Maybe by 2020 someone will have got to grips with the how-the-f*** aspects, but in the meantime transmitting stereo pair 3D is *much* easier (main picture+low rate difference channel). That's why I think it will take off, its well within the capabilities of blu-ray, HDMI, DVB-T2, etc.

Only problem is LCD isn't the best match technology-wise. However they aren't that far of delivering fast enough refresh rates cheaply, so maybe it will get there before 2012.

Main thing to remember, the sets are backwards compatible and the extra cost of adding it to existing designs is low if your technology is right.

Oh, and there as all that new 3D content from the cinemas, and they are adding 3D to old as we speak.
I reckon someone was saying the exact thing about 720 Xvid under the MKV format over the net 12 to 15 years ago.

As for the 3D and the ability to pirate.... there will always be someone like the following to rise to the challenge.

PS3 now Hacked.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8478764.stm

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Old Mar 15th 2010 | 10:35 pm
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Originally Posted by Deancm
If only Pioneer were still making plasmas. Best TV's ever made...
Agreed, I'm bringing my Pioneer 8G over, just wish I'd bought the bigger model when they where available.

The general arguments on plasma vs LCD are...

LCD -

Pro
Lower power usage, cheaper, available in smaller sizes

Con
Lesser black levels, motion blur, worse SD pic quality

Plasma -

Pro
Deeper blacks, better motion handling, better SD pic quality

Con
Can suffer screen burn (pixel orbiters help), use more power

My next TV will also be a plasma
 
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Well..welll..well tomorrow we get a 42inch Panasonic Plasma.

Out CRT developed a blur on Sunday after only 6 years - my wife suspected sabotage.

We got the plasma for AUS999 plus a free blue ray.

A mate paid 8k for his 5 years ago and had to buy a huge set top box.
 
Old Mar 15th 2010 | 10:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Deancm
. Right now I am trying to see if I can find a Pioneer 9th Gen Kuro to replace.

LCD's are OK for the average person but I wouldn't recommend them for the videophiles out there.
If you find a supplier still selling the 9G could you let me know, I assumed TV;s would continue to improve, but I was wrong, its never been bettered.
 
Old Mar 15th 2010 | 10:51 pm
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Originally Posted by freebo
If you find a supplier still selling the 9G could you let me know, I assumed TV;s would continue to improve, but I was wrong, its never been bettered.
If I find one I'll be keeping it all to myself. Wouldn't be surprised if the Pios now start going up in price.
 
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Originally Posted by freebo
If you find a supplier still selling the 9G could you let me know, I assumed TV;s would continue to improve, but I was wrong, its never been bettered.
I did say a supplier! if I find just one I'll be buying it too! They never seem to appear on ebay, the thread got me thinking, these guys are serious high end former Pio dealers and seem to have a high opinion of the Panny G20, saying it "picks up where Kuro left off", I'm sceptical but will do some research... http://www.tlcbroadcast.co.uk/vision...v-c-94_45.html

EDIT - Hmm maybe not...http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panas...0100308169.htm

Oh yeah and I have no interest at all in 3D ATM

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Old Mar 16th 2010 | 2:59 am
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Ho ho ho this is very good and difficult question.

Firstly, have a look at this video below for some informed and general advice. Now this was made in 2008 and of course technology has moved on.


The difference between the two is getting smaller but differences do exist.
Be careful with the "LED" TV being put about at the moment and what you are really looking at. There is a new technology called OLED which is potentially brilliant - its not the same as an LED TV which is still LCD but with different back light.

Also, depending on how serious you are, be careful in shops like Harvey Norman, Retravision etc - most people in there know nothing. If you serious about best quality get a TV which can be ISF calibrated.
When comparing TV sets in shops be very careful of how they are setup. In bright shop fluro lighting they often turn settings right up in whats often called "dynamic" mode which makes things look very vivid which seems great when first seen but at home you'll find very harsh over the period of the evening - its not how they were designed to be watched.
Even if for info, go to proper home cinema shops for advice.

Personally I'm a plasma fan but I must admit some of the recent large size LCDs are impressive.

If you fancy plasma I'd go Panasonic only. Now Pioneer are out, they are No1. However I did see recently a Pioneer 9the Gen Kuro being advertised; must be oldish stock but if you can get one its probably the best panel (LCD or plasma) ever made.
 
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Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack
Well..welll..well tomorrow we get a 42inch Panasonic Plasma.

Out CRT developed a blur on Sunday after only 6 years - my wife suspected sabotage.

We got the plasma for AUS999 plus a free blue ray.

A mate paid 8k for his 5 years ago and had to buy a huge set top box.
Funny that, ours did a similar thing last year but it was only 3 yrs old.

Rushed out and bought a Panasonic plasma then got the CRT fixed under extended warranty and sold it on ebay.

A month later John Lewis had dropped their price on it by £100, so I phoned them up and they sent me cheque for £100.

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I was told a while back that LCD is better for the smaller size screens and that plasma is better for the larger screens, I presume 42" and over.
 
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I was told a while back that LCD is better for the smaller size screens and that plasma is better for the larger screens, I presume 42" and over.
Anyone bought one of these?

http://www.kogan.com.au/
 
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Anyone bought one of these?

http://www.kogan.com.au/
No and I wouldn't either.
 
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Originally Posted by EvannTel
If you fancy plasma I'd go Panasonic only. Now Pioneer are out, they are No1. However I did see recently a Pioneer 9the Gen Kuro being advertised; must be oldish stock but if you can get one its probably the best panel (LCD or plasma) ever made.
Right now the current Panny's are just the run of the mill stuff. The new 2010 range of plasmas to be released around June (the G20, V20 and VT20 3D) are the ones that are incorporating Pioneers Kuro tech. The G20, by all accounts falls short of the Kuro's but the V20 and VT20 are the ones to watch out for. Going to be interesting to see the Kuro v Panny side by side comparisons.

Pity they look crap, panasonic always drop the ball with design. Titanium finish for the V20 and metallic brown for the VT20. Why can't they just have a nice, classy, gloss piano black finish like the Pioneers.

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Originally Posted by Deancm
Right now the current Panny's are just the run of the mill stuff. The new 2010 range of plasmas to be released around June (the G20, V20 and VT20 3D) are the ones that are incorporating Pioneers Kuro tech. The G20, by all accounts falls short of the Kuro's but the V20 and VT20 are the ones to watch out for. Going to be interesting to see the Kuro v Panny side by side comparisons.
Dean, you slagged off LG earlier on. I remember reading that LG make the majority of the screens for the market and that many brands carry an LG screen. This may be incorrect as I am only going by memory! Weren't they also the company that pioneered OLCD?
 
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Originally Posted by Deancm
Right now the current Panny's are just the run of the mill stuff. The new 2010 range of plasmas to be released around June (the G20, V20 and VT20 3D) are the ones that are incorporating Pioneers Kuro tech. The G20, by all accounts falls short of the Kuro's but the V20 and VT20 are the ones to watch out for. Going to be interesting to see the Kuro v Panny side by side comparisons.

Pity they look crap, panasonic always drop the ball with design. Titanium finish for the V20 and metallic brown for the VT20. Why can't they just have a nice, classy, gloss piano black finish like the Pioneers.
If they're as good as my 8G Kuro (never mind a 9G), then I for one will be buying a 50" one.
 


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