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Old Dec 15th 2014, 10:39 am
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Originally Posted by spouse of scouse
As a counter to anti-Muslim sentiment, a social media campaign is going gangbusters on Twitter. #I'll ride with you is seeing ordinary people around the country offering to ride on the bus or train with Muslim people who are wary of public reaction at this time, particularly those who wear the clothing of their religion. There are some very good people in the world

#illridewithyou: support for Muslim Australians takes off following Sydney siege - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Not surprising, people are basically good at heart.

I do wonder if a fundamental Christian took a load of Muslims hostage, whether there would be the same reaction from the Islamic community?
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Originally Posted by Tr1boy
Not surprising, people are basically good at heart.

I do wonder if a fundamental Christian took a load of Muslims hostage, whether there would be the same reaction from the Islamic community?
Have any fundamentalist Christians taken a load of Muslims hostage since the Crusades?
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Originally Posted by Tr1boy
Not surprising, people are basically good at heart.

I do wonder if a fundamental Christian took a load of Muslims hostage, whether there would be the same reaction from the Islamic community?
Yes because of your first sentence.
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Originally Posted by Tr1boy
Not surprising, people are basically good at heart.

I do wonder if a fundamental Christian took a load of Muslims hostage, whether there would be the same reaction from the Islamic community?
I don't know. And at the moment, the question isn't high on my priority list.
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Originally Posted by spouse of scouse
I don't know. And at the moment, the question isn't high on my priority list.
Not particularly concerned what your priorities are.
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Originally Posted by Beaverstate
Have any fundamentalist Christians taken a load of Muslims hostage since the Crusades?
Well there was that little matter of the 400+ years of the Spanish Inquisition
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Well there was that little matter of the 400+ years of the Spanish Inquisition
Not a Christian nor a Catholic myself but were the umm questioned Muslims?
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Originally Posted by Bermudashorts
I have just listened to Chris Bowen talk about the budget deficit on TV but the heading underneath said "Chris Bowen speaks on hostage crisis".

This is not the day. Disgraceful, not to mention stupid.
Well, getting things in perspective, it was our esteemed Prime Minister who instructed the Treasurer to "go about business as normal" and deliver his mid-year budget review..... as such the reply from the Shadow Treasurer on that topic was quite appropriate in the circumstances.....
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Originally Posted by Beaverstate
Not a Christian nor a Catholic myself but were the umm questioned Muslims?
I'm sure some of them were Moorish Arabs/Moors [sp?] I'm off for a shower so can't be bothered to google at the moment. Maybe later
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Originally Posted by Molly Coddle
I think we need to put our freedom of movement to one side for the time being, safety of the people must be the main priority at this time.
If Sydney didn't put the safety of the people first and this incident turned out not to be the only one going off in the city. Then they would be hell to pay. I think it's better to be safe than sorry personally.

It's not just about London, as I mentioned earlier. If it's Islamic extremists we are talking about here, then it involves every major western city that has stood in the way of their uncivilised barbaric regimes - the countries who have offered their help to try and bring the regime down by allowing use of their utilities, man-power, air-power etc...They are all targets, just as much as London is.


Yep, you have to try and go on regardless, absolutely. For me speaking as a mother, the worry is never going to go away until this threat has been dealt with. And I don't see that being anytime soon.
Freedoms lost are seldom lightly returned. And not speaking about the freedom of movement due to an isolated incident obviously.

One needs to see the bigger picture and not to be intimidated by a single incident.

We went about our business in London regardless of IRA bombings in my area of London in a rather factual manner.

Sydney is a hostage situation not a bombing nor an air assault nor mass shootings. Let's keep the situation in proportion shall we?

It has been already stated I thought that countries involved in the conflict in the Mid East are/will be regarded as targets by ISIS and related forces.
An action creates a reaction. A price we appear willing to pay.

Far to early to say if this is related or purely a crank or someone with an axe to grind or indeed something else.

Best not jump to conclusions until further info is hopefully revealed.
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Originally Posted by Bermudashorts
Being sent home from Circular Quay? My husband is practically next door and they have had an email "suggesting" that they might want to stay inside. I wonder how well equipped Australia is to deal with the situation, it must be unprecedented here.
Mmmm, no, it is not unprecedented, Australia has had acts of terrorism committed here in the past...1st attack - February 13, 1978,Sydney Hilton bombing at CHOGRM meeting.
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Originally Posted by Tr1boy
The longer it goes on, the better chances of a peaceful resolution. Lots of my friends work in the area and are thankfully ok. Our thoughts are with all of those hostages and their families.

If this ends badly and I sincerely hope it doesn't, it'll make the Cronulla race riots look like the teddy bear's picnic.


Looks like something is going on in Belguim now!
Hopefully not. The Islamic community has come out in condemnation. If race riots resulted it would be very poor testament to Australia and the potential of very poor outcomes all around. Not sure why you should suggest such a thing when hasn't been the case in other countries.

There are rogues and fanatics in every community. Are you suggesting Aussies are less composed than other countries? You may well be right. But sad and perhaps dire consequences if so.
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Originally Posted by The Bloke
Mmmm, no, it is not unprecedented, Australia has had acts of terrorism committed here in the past...1st attack - February 13, 1978,Sydney Hilton bombing at CHOGRM meeting.
Not forgetting the 80's bombing connected to the Turkish Kurd situation.
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Old Dec 15th 2014, 11:13 am
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Originally Posted by cresta57
I'm sure some of them were Moorish Arabs/Moors [sp?] I'm off for a shower so can't be bothered to google at the moment. Maybe later
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Anyone who was not Christian was fair game for the Inquisition, especially Jews and Muslims......

The Spanish Inquisition: Killing Non-Christians for the Mother Church
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Originally Posted by Tr1boy
Not particularly concerned what your priorities are.
Good.
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