the troubadour

Done more than take hostage. Slaughtered them in their thousands in the camps in Lebanon in the 80's.

I think the bombings by the western alliance in Arab lands may play a small part in formulating thinking among some of the more and even less Islamic radicals as well.

Beaverstate

No excusing it but that was 500 hundred years ago, even Catholics can learn
Don't lay that on anyone but the Catholics.

Tr1boy

The Cronulla riots started because of a few incidences of tension between Muslim and Anglos at the beach ( two incidents of the path down to the beach being blocked in the RNP due to women being in the sea, and a couple of incidents on the beach at Cronulla culminating in a lifeguard being stabbed). I was living on Ewos Pde at the time and it was bloody scary.

the riots were on my doorstep and all because folks couldn't get along at the beach. If that would kick off a riot, it's not a giant leap to suggest something similar could happen if people end up getting hurt through this.

I hope I am wrong and you are right. I wish none of this was even happening, and certainly wish I hadnt witnessed what I did in Cronulla. Let's hope common sense prevails.

The Bloke

Said that myself today.....reply from another guy at work was "yep, 13 hostages are dead.....but we got the guy"......

Beaverstate

Actually aside from one recent news account the vast majority of US hostage situations end without loss of hostage life.

cresta57

Lol it started in 1400s & ended in 1800s so I suppose we can expect another 300 or so years of Islamic extremism before it matures like Catholicism. Then it will just settle into clerics buggering small boys until there's a public enquiry.............

The Bloke

I think you might have been watching to many films......maybe you would like Rambo or Steven Segal?

SAS are an extreme last resort and would have to be approved at Prime Ministerial level. Each state police force has SOG, SERT, TRG or whatever designation for that particular state, which are similarly trained to SAS standard.

Beoz

Let's get to the point on this topic. This was not about religion. It was about what was perceived as 'Lebs' coming to the area and causing trouble, assaulting locals and generally not being good citizens. Having spent some time in Cronulla before the riots and had two women I know physically harassed by a gang whilst sunbathing while we men were in the ocean these times were not pretty. While the action of the locals didn't look pretty it served its purpose. The many incidents that led to the riots no longer occur.

The Bloke

.....then when they have finished, it would be Jewish extremism.....and so on.....

Beaverstate

I am not a Catholic and never have been, nor do I defend their Pedophile leanings. The muslim beheadings and executions etc are seriously re enforcing my 'phobia'.

cresta57

No, no, no, the Jews already did their extremist bit when the nailed Big G's little lad up on that cross.

Tr1boy

it was absolutely about religion. In fact the Lebanese Christians at the time came out with a statement distancing themselves from the actions of the Lebanese Muslims. I'll give you it morphed into a wider issue, but I didnt 'spend time' in Cronulla before and after the riots, I was living there and it was my home. Let me assure you very very clearly, 'didn't look pretty' doesn't even begin to cover it.

My point is, everything seems ok until it isn't. And that tipping point can be fairly easily met.

renth

Sabra and Chatilla, I remember that on the news, horrific.

I've got to say if someone invaded England, slaughtered my family, installed a puppet government, systematically stole the country's resources, imprisoned my friends without trial and tortured them then I'd be a little pissed off too.

Not saying I support Muslim radicals or even sympathise with them but I do empathise with them.

Kim67

He's an Iranian out on bail for organising the murder of his ex-wife and is known to police for other crimes in Australia, including sexual assault. Hope the hostages are out of there safe soon, the guy sounds crazy.

john_hepburn

Fingers crossed for all the hostages.