Interest rates have gone up again
#76
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Re: Interest rates have gone up again
The US sneezes and the world gets a cold but we get a new government and it means.. nothing? Funny how the rules change depending on what side of the political divide you support.
110 thousand has gone into our super fund from contributions alone. Most of that time we had NO say as to how it was invested other than to put it all in cash. I wish we had, we might still have 110 thousand instead of 72 thousand. We were advised to have at least some shares. I'll blame Howard's lot for being in charge for when we had losses during his tenure. I'll thank Howard for lower interest rates though, 17% rates were what he inherited. However I do blame Rudd for the 5 thousand dollar super loss of the last two months and for interest rates going up almost half a percent already. Captain of the ship, as I'm told.
110 thousand has gone into our super fund from contributions alone. Most of that time we had NO say as to how it was invested other than to put it all in cash. I wish we had, we might still have 110 thousand instead of 72 thousand. We were advised to have at least some shares. I'll blame Howard's lot for being in charge for when we had losses during his tenure. I'll thank Howard for lower interest rates though, 17% rates were what he inherited. However I do blame Rudd for the 5 thousand dollar super loss of the last two months and for interest rates going up almost half a percent already. Captain of the ship, as I'm told.
#77
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Just who is the Prime Minister again? Rudd right? If I started a job in November but didn't actually do until several moths later I'd be sacked. And why have rates gone up so much independently of the Reserve Bank's recommendation under our new treasurer (another man in waiting to do his job I suppose), when they did not under the previous administrations? Perhaps a lack of faith in Labour is reflected here.
It's funny how Howard got blamed for every interest rate hike but Rudd is off the hook. Howard had more than a threat of a share market recession to contend with during his time, yet throughout the Asian sharemarket crisis and September 11th, it was still on his head if rates went up and super went down. Oh and I seem to recall Howard brought down interest rates from 17%.
Let's see if Labour can bring them down at all during office.
It's funny how Howard got blamed for every interest rate hike but Rudd is off the hook. Howard had more than a threat of a share market recession to contend with during his time, yet throughout the Asian sharemarket crisis and September 11th, it was still on his head if rates went up and super went down. Oh and I seem to recall Howard brought down interest rates from 17%.
Let's see if Labour can bring them down at all during office.
The reasons for the banks increases in rates above and beyond the RBA are pretty well publicised.....whether you chose to vote with your feet and move to another bank is up to you.....and in fact Wayne Swan is trying to remove some of the prohibitive fees that prevent people from doing this and has spoken out against the moves by the banks.
BTW Howard presided over market interest rates of 22% during his time as treasurer.
As for super, as I said, if unhappy take some responsibility for your own finances and manage your own fund choices.
And for the record I'm not a labor supported.....i'm pretty ambivolent when it comes to Australian politics....however your position just strikes me as completely unreasonable.
#78
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10 years of neglect.. wonder how we got single figure interest rates, low recorded unemployment levels and a huge budget surplus? I loathe the super losses but I give Howard credit where it's due, and at least know a Liberal/Coaltion government isn't going to whine and blame and pass buck for their whole term. To be a real government Labour should try governing and quit the excuses. I think they were good as an opposition because all they had to do was wait for the previous government to do something and then whine. Now as Government, Labour is flapping in the wind of their own hot air.
#79
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bcworld, you obviously are not Australian. Such selective reading you must have too. In Australia only recently (last year) we were able to shift our super money and we have already moved once because of that. Bring on the fees as we do it again. (Until then we were locked in to our companies scheme).
Oh as Prime Minister Howard brought interest rates to the low single figures. he did not pass back double figure rates to Swan (or Rudd).
I have a different opinion, if that strikes you as unreasonable then you need a dictionary. My 'reason' comes from my perceptions and experiences. There is no 'un' about that.
Oh as Prime Minister Howard brought interest rates to the low single figures. he did not pass back double figure rates to Swan (or Rudd).
I have a different opinion, if that strikes you as unreasonable then you need a dictionary. My 'reason' comes from my perceptions and experiences. There is no 'un' about that.
#80
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10 years of neglect.. wonder how we got single figure interest rates, low recorded unemployment levels and a huge budget surplus? I loathe the super losses but I give Howard credit where it's due, and at least know a Liberal/Coaltion government isn't going to whine and blame and pass buck for their whole term. To be a real government Labour should try governing and quit the excuses. I think they were good as an opposition because all they had to do was wait for the previous government to do something and then whine. Now as Government, Labour is flapping in the wind of their own hot air.
Thank god the public, in huge numbers, woke up to his lies and hypocrisy.
#81
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bcworld, you obviously are not Australian. Such selective reading you must have too. In Australia only recently (last year) we were able to shift our super money and we have already moved once because of that. Bring on the fees as we do it again. (Until then we were locked in to our companies scheme).
Oh as Prime Minister Howard brought interest rates to the low single figures. he did not pass back double figure rates to Swan (or Rudd).
I have a different opinion, if that strikes you as unreasonable then you need a dictionary. My 'reason' comes from my perceptions and experiences. There is no 'un' about that.
Oh as Prime Minister Howard brought interest rates to the low single figures. he did not pass back double figure rates to Swan (or Rudd).
I have a different opinion, if that strikes you as unreasonable then you need a dictionary. My 'reason' comes from my perceptions and experiences. There is no 'un' about that.
I'm simply suggesting that instead of seeking someone to blame for every up & down in the economy you take a bit more responsbility for your own finances.
#82
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Don't pratronise me, Mark. All I'm hearing are excuses from Labour supporters but I guess Rudd is good at the blame game too. If a change of government means so little to how our economy reacts then you're deluding yourselves. Even before Parliament meets the economy and share market is sensitised to new leadership. Rudd's government has already affected markets and how banks respond.
How many months do you guys allow for Rudd and co. to stop blaming the last lot, (when it suits because they were also promoting our robust economy being strong enough to withstand a recession when that suited too). Don't tell me they actually inherited a strong ecomony and a massive surplus??
How many months do you guys allow for Rudd and co. to stop blaming the last lot, (when it suits because they were also promoting our robust economy being strong enough to withstand a recession when that suited too). Don't tell me they actually inherited a strong ecomony and a massive surplus??
Of course, a new government can influence an economy, but this takes time. You talk about the share markets and economy being "sensitised" to the new leadership, but what do you actually mean here? I agree that the share market will have adapted very quickly to the new leadership; but this really has a tiny impact on the value of companies. As for the economy becoming "sensitised" - you'll have to explain this one to me....and also, explain to me why you are talking about the economy and the markets in the same sentence too.
I reckon that if kevin rudd increased taxation now, it would take a year or two before the impact on inflation would be seen.
#84
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If you're close to retiring it's advisable to have your super invested in a "conservative" class - which is mostly cash investments. This way your funds aren't exposed to market volatility.
For the rest of us a more aggressive class would be more suitable as we have enough time to recoup any losses and maximize future gains.
For the rest of us a more aggressive class would be more suitable as we have enough time to recoup any losses and maximize future gains.
#86
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Irrespective of which side of the political fence you sit, interest rates are on the rise and that's the fact that many mortgage holders have to deal with.
For many, and for what ever reason, these increases are causing considerable strain with more of their weekly budget going on their mortgage repayments. And it looks as though we can expect at least another 2 increases in the next few months.
It is therefore more important than ever to make sure your mortgage is structured so that you are paying as little interest as possible... both the rate and the type are critical here.
Too many mortgage holders, either out of loyalty, laziness or lack of knowledge, just carry on with there existing arrangements to their own detriment and to the great advantage to their bank.
For many, and for what ever reason, these increases are causing considerable strain with more of their weekly budget going on their mortgage repayments. And it looks as though we can expect at least another 2 increases in the next few months.
It is therefore more important than ever to make sure your mortgage is structured so that you are paying as little interest as possible... both the rate and the type are critical here.
Too many mortgage holders, either out of loyalty, laziness or lack of knowledge, just carry on with there existing arrangements to their own detriment and to the great advantage to their bank.
#88
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Being Australian has a lot to do with it. Don't kid yourself. An Australian wouldn't have chosen to see a different opinion as being 'unreasonable'. An Australian would've disagreed or agreed. It's our social mores you guys often totally don't get. I wonder if you know how you 'read'.
I never said I expect our funds to go up and up. It's been nearly 15 years, I expected them to level out (at worse) over that time with more not less than was put in. I've been told our contributions need to be invested to return at least two-fold to survive in my old age. I resent the compulsory element of a company fund that promoted investment options and waiting out for downs to become ups, when in reality the numbers speak for themselves. If I take the blame it is because under a super scheme not an honest pension, people who are not constantly watching investment options and who know very little about investment options lose out. Wait until I'm 65 and have bugger all to live off. I hope the government then can cover my fiscal ignorance of years earlier. Is that taking the blame enough? I certainly wouldn't dare blame the system or a Labour government. Hell, why would one blame the system?
I never said I expect our funds to go up and up. It's been nearly 15 years, I expected them to level out (at worse) over that time with more not less than was put in. I've been told our contributions need to be invested to return at least two-fold to survive in my old age. I resent the compulsory element of a company fund that promoted investment options and waiting out for downs to become ups, when in reality the numbers speak for themselves. If I take the blame it is because under a super scheme not an honest pension, people who are not constantly watching investment options and who know very little about investment options lose out. Wait until I'm 65 and have bugger all to live off. I hope the government then can cover my fiscal ignorance of years earlier. Is that taking the blame enough? I certainly wouldn't dare blame the system or a Labour government. Hell, why would one blame the system?
#89
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Being Australian has a lot to do with it. Don't kid yourself. An Australian wouldn't have chosen to see a different opinion as being 'unreasonable'. An Australian would've disagreed or agreed. It's our social mores you guys often totally don't get. I wonder if you know how you 'read'.
I never said I expect our funds to go up and up. It's been nearly 15 years, I expected them to level out (at worse) over that time with more not less than was put in. I've been told our contributions need to be invested to return at least two-fold to survive in my old age. I resent the compulsory element of a company fund that promoted investment options and waiting out for downs to become ups, when in reality the numbers speak for themselves. If I take the blame it is because under a super scheme not an honest pension, people who are not constantly watching investment options and who know very little about investment options lose out. Wait until I'm 65 and have bugger all to live off. I hope the government then can cover my fiscal ignorance of years earlier. Is that taking the blame enough? I certainly wouldn't dare blame the system or a Labour government. Hell, why would one blame the system?
I never said I expect our funds to go up and up. It's been nearly 15 years, I expected them to level out (at worse) over that time with more not less than was put in. I've been told our contributions need to be invested to return at least two-fold to survive in my old age. I resent the compulsory element of a company fund that promoted investment options and waiting out for downs to become ups, when in reality the numbers speak for themselves. If I take the blame it is because under a super scheme not an honest pension, people who are not constantly watching investment options and who know very little about investment options lose out. Wait until I'm 65 and have bugger all to live off. I hope the government then can cover my fiscal ignorance of years earlier. Is that taking the blame enough? I certainly wouldn't dare blame the system or a Labour government. Hell, why would one blame the system?
Also, be thankful you have ANY SUPER to complain about, because you can bet your balls if the Labor Govt hadn't introduced it in 93 your balance would be a big fat ZERO right now.
Liberal doesn't care about people like you. Never has, never will.
#90
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Being Australian has a lot to do with it. Don't kid yourself. An Australian wouldn't have chosen to see a different opinion as being 'unreasonable'. An Australian would've disagreed or agreed. It's our social mores you guys often totally don't get. I wonder if you know how you 'read'.