Do you expect a "mini UK in Oz" situation?
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I thought they just used the wheelie bins, especially in Perth. Been quite a few bodies found in them I understand.
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See how you feel when you get here.
We came out with the same attitude, but it only really felt like home when we moved into our own place and out of rentals (14 months after we moved out here), then with how I've been feeling after our baby was born, missing family and things going nowhere with OHs electrical stuff and him being miserable at work I actually said to him one day a couple of weeks ago "WTF is it all about? I want to go home!".
(thankfully this was just a "wobble"!!)
Like Kevin Bloomfield said, it is not always that easy to get to know the locals, they have their friends and a lot of the time they are not interested in making any more. And it's not just immigrants or Poms this refers to, a good friend of mine who was born and raised in WA moved to Bunbury from Perth and found it really hard too. I think we all just imagine we'll have a BBQ, invite loads of Aussies and suddenly we've got loads of friends, but although you might make a lot of acquaintances it is not so easy to make people you would consider actual friends.
I think emigrating is a bit like having children: you spend years watching other people raise theirs thinking "I will never do that/let them get away with that" but when you have one of your own you realise that actually, yes, you just might!![LOL](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/lol.gif)
We came out with the same attitude, but it only really felt like home when we moved into our own place and out of rentals (14 months after we moved out here), then with how I've been feeling after our baby was born, missing family and things going nowhere with OHs electrical stuff and him being miserable at work I actually said to him one day a couple of weeks ago "WTF is it all about? I want to go home!".
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Like Kevin Bloomfield said, it is not always that easy to get to know the locals, they have their friends and a lot of the time they are not interested in making any more. And it's not just immigrants or Poms this refers to, a good friend of mine who was born and raised in WA moved to Bunbury from Perth and found it really hard too. I think we all just imagine we'll have a BBQ, invite loads of Aussies and suddenly we've got loads of friends, but although you might make a lot of acquaintances it is not so easy to make people you would consider actual friends.
I think emigrating is a bit like having children: you spend years watching other people raise theirs thinking "I will never do that/let them get away with that" but when you have one of your own you realise that actually, yes, you just might!
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I will confess to being lucky here, and not seeing a problem. As soon as we arrive, we will be 'home', as we will be staying with Kates parents (and thats not as bad as it sounds, in fact - not bad at all!), so we won't have to go through the whole 'rental' process...
We can take our time to get settled with our own place.
Also, there will be more family where we are going, than what we have around us now. We have no family in Sheffield, with the nearest being mine in Leicester...
Having Kates mum near us when we start a family is one of the reasons for the move.
As I have said, I do consider us to be lucky, as we have had the oppurtunity to visit and see a lot of Aus over the past 7 years. Our decission to make the move has been as a result of these trips and the experiences we've had.
"I take my hat off" to those of you diving in feet first. I know people who have moved to Aus without setting foot their before they did.
Another point/comparison to make is that people often make a place what it is. When we we're at uni in Sheffield we would quite happily tell people that we 'loved sheffield'. We then decided to stay and settle after finishing. Although we still think of Sheffield as a great place, what we noticed straight away was that it was different. Most of our friends moved away when we finished, and Sheffield suddenly felt like a very different place.
I hope you can see the point I'm trying to make...
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And my mind raced, what combination of circumstances could lead to this situation?
I gave me something else to think about after contemplating my usual meagre opening bat tally.
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Now here's a thing, apropos of nothing, I was playing cricket on the outskirts of Brisbane the other day and noticed that the wheelie bins had "City Of Auckland" on them.
And my mind raced, what combination of circumstances could lead to this situation?
I gave me something else to think about after contemplating my usual meagre opening bat tally.
And my mind raced, what combination of circumstances could lead to this situation?
I gave me something else to think about after contemplating my usual meagre opening bat tally.
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Now here's a thing, apropos of nothing, I was playing cricket on the outskirts of Brisbane the other day and noticed that the wheelie bins had "City Of Auckland" on them.
And my mind raced, what combination of circumstances could lead to this situation?
I gave me something else to think about after contemplating my usual meagre opening bat tally.
And my mind raced, what combination of circumstances could lead to this situation?
I gave me something else to think about after contemplating my usual meagre opening bat tally.
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You've uncovered a vast underground wheelie-bin trafficing scam!!! OH MY GOD!!! It'd never happen in blighty you know mate ...... [principally because they'd get burnt out by hoodies long before they could get nicked...] ... Hold on, mind drifted away for a moment there. Anyway - alert Interpol! ![Big Grin](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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Is there really anything that wrong about retaining a bit of your original culture when you move over here.
I mean the Greeks, Italians, Chinese etc etc are all proud to be called Australians, but they also are very proud of there original heritage.
So what is wrong with us trying to keep our British identity a bit, most of us mix with the aussies and get on fine (well I do)
But after 2 years here I am afraid to say that those people who say that most of your friends will be expats are correct, when we first arrived I was speaking to a pom who has been here for over 20 years and he said that if I look back in 20 years time I will have loads of aussie mates, but my close friends will be poms, I didn't really didn't believe him but it is starting to look like he was right. After all they have their own network of friends and relatives stretching back a lifetime we don't.
I think the expats who come over here and within a week have a ute, drink VB, have a hat with corks on, are AFL mad etc, etc are perhaps the ones who are a bit on the strange side.
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Is there really anything that wrong about retaining a bit of your original culture when you move over here. I mean the Greeks, Italians, Chinese etc etc are all proud to be called Australians, but they also are very proud of there original heritage.
So what is wrong with us trying to keep our British identity a bit, most of us mix with the aussies and get on fine (well I do)
So what is wrong with us trying to keep our British identity a bit, most of us mix with the aussies and get on fine (well I do)
But after 2 years here I am afraid to say that those people who say that most of your friends will be expats are correct, when we first arrived I was speaking to a pom who has been here for over 20 years and he said that if I look back in 20 years time I will have loads of aussie mates, but my close friends will be poms, I didn't really didn't believe him but it is starting to look like he was right. After all they have their own network of friends and relatives stretching back a lifetime we don't.
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a new yardstick, not dog poo on the streets - bodies ![ROFL](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/rofl.gif)
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Yes the bodies are picked up much quicker here, this country would never dream of having to have a massive recruitment drive overseas for ambos or nurses or police
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I put it down to the local council, not only do they provide dog poo bags on a roll so you can take it home, they now have body bags on a roll pick em up, zip em up, keeps the place well tidy.
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Another point/comparison to make is that people often make a place what it is. When we we're at uni in Sheffield we would quite happily tell people that we 'loved sheffield'. We then decided to stay and settle after finishing. Although we still think of Sheffield as a great place, what we noticed straight away was that it was different. Most of our friends moved away when we finished, and Sheffield suddenly felt like a very different place.
I hope you can see the point I'm trying to make...
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I look forward to your post in around 2009/2010 when you've been here two years and can give your opinion on whether your post is how you actually do feel.
As for saying a place is how you make it, yes, it can be, we love it here, but it doesnt mean we dont miss friends (and I mean long term good friends) and family.
Whether you've been before or not doesnt make a whole lot of difference to how you will feel once you actually land here to live, forever... I know a couple who'd been here a few times, not just on holiday but backpacking for a year as well, and they have gone back after just over a year as she was very homesick.
I'm not trying to be funny, or argumentative, just point out that we all sit in the UK in our old lives reading posts and thinking "that will not be me" but actually you may find it turns out that it is. As I said previously, took two years, the birth of our baby and DH's job woes to make me question why we came, what was different.
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Is there really anything that wrong about retaining a bit of your original culture when you move over here.
I mean the Greeks, Italians, Chinese etc etc are all proud to be called Australians, but they also are very proud of there original heritage.
So what is wrong with us trying to keep our British identity a bit, most of us mix with the aussies and get on fine (well I do)
But after 2 years here I am afraid to say that those people who say that most of your friends will be expats are correct, when we first arrived I was speaking to a pom who has been here for over 20 years and he said that if I look back in 20 years time I will have loads of aussie mates, but my close friends will be poms, I didn't really didn't believe him but it is starting to look like he was right. After all they have their own network of friends and relatives stretching back a lifetime we don't.
I think the expats who come over here and within a week have a ute, drink VB, have a hat with corks on, are AFL mad etc, etc are perhaps the ones who are a bit on the strange side.
John
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Is there really anything that wrong about retaining a bit of your original culture when you move over here.
I mean the Greeks, Italians, Chinese etc etc are all proud to be called Australians, but they also are very proud of there original heritage.
So what is wrong with us trying to keep our British identity a bit, most of us mix with the aussies and get on fine (well I do)
But after 2 years here I am afraid to say that those people who say that most of your friends will be expats are correct, when we first arrived I was speaking to a pom who has been here for over 20 years and he said that if I look back in 20 years time I will have loads of aussie mates, but my close friends will be poms, I didn't really didn't believe him but it is starting to look like he was right. After all they have their own network of friends and relatives stretching back a lifetime we don't.
I think the expats who come over here and within a week have a ute, drink VB, have a hat with corks on, are AFL mad etc, etc are perhaps the ones who are a bit on the strange side.
John
I can honestly say that our closest friends are Aussies. We have more in common - but frankly, that's down to the way we choose to live, not nationality at all. For one thing, I find that Brit blokes want to talk about soccer all the time, and compare what they have, in general, and I just don't do that. Little things like that, whereas our Aussie mates have an interest in the land, bushfire, farming, engineering, semi-rural life etc.
*Noone* I know drinks VB, has a ute AND a hat. That would be like your lotto numbers coming up.
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BTW, we know one family, (Aussie) would seem quite eccentric to some, but they are great, and they all wear hats - not the farmer style one but a sort of 19th century pastoral ensemble. I've described it as that, and they like and agree with it. We went to visit them and they all came out wearing them.
At least a hat keeps the sun off your face. A lot of Aussies and Brits wear baseball caps when mowing but I think you can do better that so I use an Akruba for mowing because it makes sense, and my wife would object if I didn't(!)
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