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Re: Australian Arrogance
Originally Posted by MDawson
(Post 8486160)
The main issue I had with Australia is how most Aussies actually believe they are better than the rest of the human race (god knows why) Many Aussies haven't travelled or been outside their own back yard and just listen to the Aussie media telling them how wonderful they are and their country. I'm much more content now back here in Derbyshire , England isn't perfect but one thing I can say for sure, neither is Australia. Plenty of Northerners have a big opinion of themselves - did they not invent the phrase which goes like, "I'm a Northerner and I mean what I say and say what I like etc"...
Originally Posted by MDawson
(Post 8486160)
Difference is the British are not so arrogant and one -eyed.
I would warn anyone thinking of moving to Oz to think and think again , if you move to Australia you will bacome a second class pom instead of being a proud Englishman . ( A pom is an Englishman who has basically had his spine removed) |
Re: Australian Arrogance
Originally Posted by Kapri
(Post 8486821)
I think you may be right Kim.
It's in the British psyche to be polite and good mannered. This can mean telling white lies to smooth the way and also not being boastful about ones achievements or ones country! It shows a lack of a travelled person frankly and shows their own ignorance. |
Re: Australian Arrogance
Originally Posted by Cant rain all the time2
(Post 8487027)
This site ought to be changed from Britishexpats.com to Wewanttobeaustralian.com. Whenever anyone posts anything remotely negative about Australia they get flamed.:thumbdown:
Good intelligent debate and argument rarely gets flamed but if your going to play with matches in the first instance expect some smoldering responses imo. |
Re: Australian Arrogance
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
(Post 8487056)
I don't, but my point still stands.
These threads get full of lines like "pretty much all the Australians I know travel extensively" and "every Australian I've ever met spends Summer in the Alps and Winter's in the Maldives" and its just as much a generalization as "Australians don't travel". As Hebe said, "the people who haven't travelled are usually the young, the elderly or the poor" That's a bloody big chunk of the populous. |
Re: Australian Arrogance
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
(Post 8487056)
I don't, but my point still stands.
These threads get full of lines like "pretty much all the Australians I know travel extensively" and "every Australian I've ever met spends Summer in the Alps and Winter's in the Maldives" and its just as much a generalization as "Australians don't travel". As Hebe said, "the people who haven't travelled are usually the young, the elderly or the poor" That's a bloody big chunk of the populous. A lot of it is demographics. My neighbour was off to Canada for the Olympics. He's not short of a few bucks. Frankly most people in professional life do go overseas alot, porportionately more so when you could consider the expense and the distance. That girl in Subway is probably not the luckiest of girls - or is saving hard to get somewhere. |
Re: Australian Arrogance
Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack
(Post 8487100)
Maybe. Of course some people haven't moved out of NSW - it is a large state.
A lot of it is demographics. My neighbour was off to Canada for the Olympics. He's not short of a few bucks. Frankly most people in professional life do go overseas alot, porportionately more so when you could consider the expense and the distance. That girl in Subway is probably not the luckiest of girls - or is saving hard to get somewhere. |
Re: Australian Arrogance
Originally Posted by MartinLuther
(Post 8487105)
She was probably only 15 as well. But represents the whole demographic of Australia. :thumbup:
It goes without saying that every single one of them is either planning their next expedition up the Nile, is actually on said expedition or has just got back and is telling everybody where their next jaunt will be. Happy now? |
Re: Australian Arrogance
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
(Post 8487113)
Oh FFS.... you know what, you're right. I'm a ****ing idiot for even suggesting the very idea that not all Australians are globe trotters. I take back everything I said....
It goes without saying that every single one of them is either planning their next expedition up the Nile, is actually on said expedition or has just got back and is telling everybody where their next jaunt will be. Happy now? You work in the Gong - a limited place by your own admission. You once said I needed to get out more - well we do - as do people we know. They get out overseas! A couple have just back from a Melbourne Uni choral society tour of Europe. Cathedrals in Vienna, Germany, Paris - a huge list. They get out more than most Expats. |
Re: Australian Arrogance
I can't quite understand how people can have such completely opposite experiences.
I could say lots of negative things about Australia - I find it a bit shallow, a bit bland, a rip-off and a lie-down-and-be-shafted attitude towards business... But the people generally are great. I wonder if it's who you happen to work with. The ones I associate with most closely are witty, intelligent (or they seem so to me!), very aware of the country's shortcomings and very respectful of my background. Having said that, most do seem to have a British connection somewhere - one or two generations back. I wonder if this leads to a common sense of humour... My only slate-everybody comment would be that there are far too many idiots in cars - revving engines and doing burnouts - and too many people accepting of it. |
Re: Australian Arrogance
Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack
(Post 8487121)
No - you were making fun of people who do claim that people go overseas.
I think the claim that most Australians don't travel is bollocks... I also think the rubbish that usually gets trotted out in threads like this about ALL Australians travelling the globe on a daily basis is also bollocks. All that's happened here is that Godzoners, a term I haven't used in years, have seen their own arses and determined that because I actually had the temerity to suggest that, actually, not every Australian travels is somehow an attack. **** sake, I can see how people who try to point out anything negative about Australia say they get rounded on in the Barbie. :thumbdown: |
Re: Australian Arrogance
Originally Posted by welshviking
(Post 8487074)
Fourthded.
I have an aunt (non-Welsh variety) who lived in Kent. She was horriefied that we were moving to Aus....why would anyone want to go so far? Don't think she ever left Kent. Therefore I have to conclude that all English people never leave Kent. |
Re: Australian Arrogance
Guys, what the heck are you all getting het up about, it's not a life and death issue here for gawds sake:rolleyes:
Calm down folks, or else the thread gets closed down and the OP ends up a happy chappy:p |
Re: Australian Arrogance
Originally Posted by Pomster
(Post 8487132)
......Therefore I have to conclude that all English people never leave Kent.
;) |
Re: Australian Arrogance
Originally Posted by DeadVim
(Post 8487048)
Aye ... nothing wrong with a good reasoned debate but when the OP is shot through with the kind of thing we see here then they deserve a serve.
But that is what trolls do innit? Divide and conquer. And the world spins on ... Right, enough of this LCD-based bollards ... I'm off to another typical Australian hellish day ... a morning of cricket net practice with a bunch of arrogant Aussies ... how WILL I survive? With some retaliatory Ashes humour I think ... :D |
Re: Australian Arrogance
I have heard from Aussies who make sweeping statements like "Aus is the best place in the world" and it does get up my nose but on the whole I would say that the majority of it is perpetuated by the media - television and newspapers carrying on about the wonders of Australia because for so long, I think, Aus was seen as a bit of a 'poor cousin' to the rest of the industrialised world and now that it has come into it's own (particularly since the Sydney olympics) is more on the world stage, the media still harbours this insecurity and needs to be reassured that Aus is in fact, good enough.
For the first 5 years that I was here, I remember just about every celebrity that arrived in the country was asked What they thought of Australia as their first question - e-v-e-r-y t-i-m-e - used to drive me mad! It's better..now they say, do you prefer Melbourne or Sydney :D |
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