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The Brexit; Are you in or out?
#586
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Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?
I love a good Brexit!
May you odds forever be in your favour (Vote Leave)
May you odds forever be in your favour (Vote Leave)
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#588
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Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?
The Remainers can't win to be honest. If they lose, they've lost the referendum. If they win, from now on, when ever a promise was/is/will be broken (Turkey joining EU, etc etc) the brexiters will remind them.
On hindsight DC ****ed this up badly.
On hindsight DC ****ed this up badly.
#590
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Just got to work. About ten people tried to push a leaflet into my hands as I exited the station and proceeded to walk up the road. All Remain-ers. Not a Brexit in sight.
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Bearing in mind my circle of friends "private school, champagne socialist dicks"
My FB wall is all vote remain. This really will be a working class revolution.
My FB wall is all vote remain. This really will be a working class revolution.
#594
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Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?
It's a tough call.
There are boat loads of peasants in the UK who will be voting to leave.
However, there are lots of people in the lower middle classes with aspirations and lots above them who are truly middle / upper classes who are seemingly more likely to vote remain.
Oldies seem to want out, youth seem to want in.
It's going to be tight but those on the fence will likely fall to Remain I think.
There are boat loads of peasants in the UK who will be voting to leave.
However, there are lots of people in the lower middle classes with aspirations and lots above them who are truly middle / upper classes who are seemingly more likely to vote remain.
Oldies seem to want out, youth seem to want in.
It's going to be tight but those on the fence will likely fall to Remain I think.
#595
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Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?
As a wise person pointed out to me, in 1914 the establishment sent out the working classes to be slaughtered on the fields of Flanders.
In 2016 the establishment is sending out the working classes to be slaughtered by the EU, headquartered in Brussels.
Different type of slaughter and a fair degree of hyperbole is certainly involved but there's a kernel of truth as well.
In 2016 the establishment is sending out the working classes to be slaughtered by the EU, headquartered in Brussels.
Different type of slaughter and a fair degree of hyperbole is certainly involved but there's a kernel of truth as well.
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Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?
As a wise person pointed out to me, in 1914 the establishment sent out the working classes to be slaughtered on the fields of Flanders.
In 2016 the establishment is sending out the working classes to be slaughtered by the EU, headquartered in Brussels.
Different type of slaughter and a fair degree of hyperbole is certainly involved but there's a kernel of truth as well.
In 2016 the establishment is sending out the working classes to be slaughtered by the EU, headquartered in Brussels.
Different type of slaughter and a fair degree of hyperbole is certainly involved but there's a kernel of truth as well.
When the dust's settled, I want an independent commission to assess the extent to which major campaigners gave out false information: anyone found to have done so deliberately or carelessly should be given concrete wellingtons and dumped half way between Calais and Dover.
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Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?
There's more to life than pure economics, mate.
Your graph says nothing about, say, increased competition for jobs leading to stagnant wages, for example. That's a common complaint one hears from working class voters. Or overcrowded schools and social services. Or skyrocketing housing costs due to the housing shortages.
There's also cultural issues. It's the working class areas that have felt the most impact from migration of different nationalities. Like it or not, many areas have seen rapid changes due to large scale migrations. The UK is rapidly changing and many people don't like what they see.
Europe in 1914 was prosperous and rich but that didn't prevent the slaughter, did it?
Your graph says nothing about, say, increased competition for jobs leading to stagnant wages, for example. That's a common complaint one hears from working class voters. Or overcrowded schools and social services. Or skyrocketing housing costs due to the housing shortages.
There's also cultural issues. It's the working class areas that have felt the most impact from migration of different nationalities. Like it or not, many areas have seen rapid changes due to large scale migrations. The UK is rapidly changing and many people don't like what they see.
Europe in 1914 was prosperous and rich but that didn't prevent the slaughter, did it?
Oh yeah, exactly as this graph depicts:
http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/med...charts_624.png
When the dust's settled, I want an independent commission to assess the extent to which major campaigners gave out false information: anyone found to have done so deliberately or carelessly should be given concrete wellingtons and dumped half way between Calais and Dover.
http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/med...charts_624.png
When the dust's settled, I want an independent commission to assess the extent to which major campaigners gave out false information: anyone found to have done so deliberately or carelessly should be given concrete wellingtons and dumped half way between Calais and Dover.
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Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?
I believe the "Brextiers" are being quieter on social media because they don't want to be shamed to claimed to be a racists.
But **** me, today has been 100% remain
But **** me, today has been 100% remain