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Old Nov 21st 2006, 6:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
Needless to say my daughter didn't go back after having to pay out over $150 out of her own pocket.
And she didn't tell him to f--- off and walk out with that night's tips why ??

Round here I actually know of restaurants where the servers pay to work
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Old Nov 21st 2006, 6:06 pm
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And she didn't tell him to f--- off and walk out with that night's tips why ??

Round here I actually know of restaurants where the servers pay to work
No she definately wouldn't do that Davy...she's too well mannered. She worked her shift...handed over what they said she owed and didn't go back. The tips she earned that night were a lot less than what she had to hand over....she had to pay up out of her own pocket.
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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
No she definately wouldn't do that Davy...she's too well mannered. She worked her shift...handed over what they said she owed and didn't go back. The tips she earned that night were a lot less than what she had to hand over....she had to pay up out of her own pocket.
Blessher, nothing like my Daughter's then I wonder where they get it from
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Old Nov 21st 2006, 7:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Elvira
I still cringe when I think of the times (when we used to visit rather than live in the US) we used to leave 10% or so, not realising that the tips were meant to make up the servers' wages. I'm sure a lot of European tourists are the same.
A lot of cheap Americans tip 10% or less.
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Old Nov 21st 2006, 7:15 pm
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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
No she definately wouldn't do that Davy...she's too well mannered
OK - in that case drop the f off bit - she should just have walked out then and there and taken when she was owed.
Employers (or in fact any person) who treat employees like that need a good shoeing.
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Originally Posted by BigDavyG
OK - in that case drop the f off bit - she should just have walked out then and there and taken when she was owed.
Employers (or in fact any person) who treat employees like that need a good shoeing.
She wouldn't have just walked out...she's not like that. I am but she's not. You keep missing my point...they didn't owe her...she owed them!!
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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
You keep missing my point...they didn't owe her...she owed them!!
But that's my point.....how did she ??
The customers owed the restaurant for their meal - that's that as far as I can see.
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Old Nov 21st 2006, 7:48 pm
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But that's my point.....how did she ??
The customers owed the restaurant for their meal - that's that as far as I can see.
The general rule around here is if a customer leaves without paying the server is responsible for the bill. Sucks I know.
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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
The general rule around here is if a customer leaves without paying the server is responsible for the bill. Sucks I know.
I fear this policy is the same everywhere, not just in the US. I used to waitress when I was at uni, and one Sunday, one of the waiters was completely distraught because a whole party - about 8 people - had walked out without paying for their 3-course lunch.
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Old Nov 21st 2006, 8:09 pm
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Originally Posted by britvic
I dont believe that for a minuet and if so they want there head looking at kissing peoples arse's for $3 an hour in the hope of getting a nice tip.
Most waiters/waitresses here get paid $2.16 an hour, the tips are their real wages.
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Old Nov 21st 2006, 8:11 pm
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Originally Posted by Elvira
I still cringe when I think of the times (when we used to visit rather than live in the US) we used to leave 10% or so, not realising that the tips were meant to make up the servers' wages. I'm sure a lot of European tourists are the same.
As mentioned in the movie 'Waiting'!
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Old Nov 21st 2006, 9:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Elvira
I still cringe when I think of the times (when we used to visit rather than live in the US) we used to leave 10% or so, not realising that the tips were meant to make up the servers' wages. I'm sure a lot of European tourists are the same.
The same applies to the Travel Business, as well as the Hospitality Business. We rely on tips to boost our wages too.

Case In Point: This past Spring, I took a Group of 48 Brits on a 13 day tour. The Brits had 96 Suitcases with them (thinking that the Airline's 2 Suitcase policy also applied to Motorcoaches which by the way.....doesn't) + all of their Carry-Ons and Purchases.

At the end of the trip, one of the Passengers (a well travelled businessman) asked the Group Leader if he should tip me. "No" came the reply from the Group Leader "as I was getting a sizeable cheque from him"

That "sizeable cheque" for 13 days work amounted to a mere $400, which if broken down amounts to 64 cents per day, per passenger.....for safely driving them around for 3,000 miles, explaining points of interest along the way, and almost requiring back surgery after dealing with their heavy suitcases. The amount I should have got was $1,560!

It royally pisses me off when they tip a waiter more for delivering a meal to their table, than they would someone who has their safety in their hands.

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Old Nov 21st 2006, 9:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Scouse Express
The same applies to the Travel Business, as well as the Hospitality Business. We rely on tips to boost our wages too.

Case In Point: This past Spring, I took a Group of 48 Brits on a 13 day tour. The Brits had 96 Suitcases with them (thinking that the Airline's 2 Suitcase policy also applied to Motorcoaches which by the way.....doesn't) + all of their Carry-Ons and Purchases.

At the end of the trip, one of the Passengers (a well travelled businessman) asked the Group Leader if he should tip me. "No" came the reply from the Group Leader "as I was getting a sizeable cheque from him"

That "sizeable cheque" for 13 days work amounted to a mere $400, which if broken down amounts to 64 cents per day, per passenger.....for safely driving them around for 3,000 miles, explaining points of interest along the way, and almost requiring back surgery after dealing with their heavy suitcases. The amount I should have got was $1,560!

It royally pisses me off when they tip a waiter more for delivering a meal to their table, than they would someone who has their safety in their hands.

Rant Over!

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Decent salaries should be paid so people don't have to rely on tips. Tips should be rolled into the prices.
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Old Nov 21st 2006, 9:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
Decent salaries should be paid so people don't have to rely on tips. Tips should be rolled into the prices.
Yes, I agree. I understand the concept behind the whole tip thing, but it's flawed. Tips should be like a Christmas bonus, it's nice to get, but you don't rely on it.
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Old Nov 21st 2006, 9:29 pm
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Yes, I agree. I understand the concept behind the whole tip thing, but it's flawed. Tips should be like a Christmas bonus, it's nice to get, but you don't rely on it.
Yes...that's another way of looking at it. Ideally if you give the customer good service...you will be tipped accordingly. But as Scouse Express as just pointed out...it's not always the case. If you go for a meal and the food is bad or it's taken a long time...your first reaction is not to leave a good tip...even though it's not the server's fault. It's a catch 22 situation I'm afraid.
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