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Old Oct 5th 2009, 3:36 pm
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Originally Posted by AmerLisa
Being constantly negative makes for a sad person. I feel bad for you.
I posited an argument that social mobility has declined in the US, hinting that it's now higher in Europe. Why is that negative? Any rebuttal to the argument?

Here's an article from the "negative" WSJ from '05. Things have hardly got better in the mobility regard since then, in fact just the opposite:

Originally Posted by WSJ
Despite the widespread belief that the U.S. remains a more
mobile society than Europe, economists and sociologists say that
in recent decades the typical child starting out in poverty in
continental Europe (or in Canada) has had a better chance at
prosperity.
How dare the WSJ be so negative!

http://www.acces.us/PDF/WSJ.com%20_A...Gap_Widens.pdf
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Old Oct 5th 2009, 3:37 pm
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
So when the OP asks whther she should change her life and move over at a time of economic upheaval, we should all tell her only that it's a lovely happy place
Seriously, can you not understand what I'm trying to say? There are pros and cons to everything, including moving. Its not for the fainthearted for sure, but its not always as negative as Gianta$$ portrays. Certainly doesn't it depend on what the op wants out of life? If social security is a main priority, then by all means DON'T MOVE!
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
So maybe, once again, you're talking a load of bollocks.
Hardly, its what I've experienced. Tell me why my experience is a load of bollocks?
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Old Oct 5th 2009, 3:38 pm
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Originally Posted by AmerLisa
Seriously, can you not understand what I'm trying to say? There are pros and cons to everything, including moving. Its not for the fainthearted for sure, but its not always as negative as Gianta$$ portrays. Certainly doesn't it depend on what the op wants out of life? If social security is a main priority, then by all means DON'T MOVE!
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Old Oct 5th 2009, 3:39 pm
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Originally Posted by AmerLisa
Hardly, its what I've experienced. Tell me why my experience is a load of bollocks?
Big statement that everyone in Britain has to book leave a year in advance.
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Default Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?

Originally Posted by Giantaxe
I posited an argument that social mobility has declined in the US, hinting that it's now higher in Europe. Why is that negative? Any rebuttal to the argument?

Here's an article from the "negative" WSJ from '05. Things have hardly got better in the mobility regard since then, in fact just the opposite:



How dare the WSJ be so negative!

http://www.acces.us/PDF/WSJ.com%20_A...Gap_Widens.pdf
RUN, RUN OP, THE SKY IS FALLING!! Gianta$$ has all the stats pointing in the right direction! The end is nigh!!!


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Originally Posted by AmerLisa
RUN, RUN OP, THE SKY IS FALLING!! Gianta$$ has all the stats pointing in the right direction! The end is nigh!!!


Maybe it got worse for his mil.
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
Big statement that everyone in Britain has to book leave a year in advance.
Where did I say that, Sally dear? Where did I say "everyone"?
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Originally Posted by AmerLisa
Its not for the fainthearted for sure, but its not always as negative as Gianta$$ portrays. Certainly doesn't it depend on what the op wants out of life? If social security is a main priority, then by all means DON'T MOVE!
Do you even understand the concept of social mobility and it's relation to the "American Dream"?
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Originally Posted by StaryandStripey
Hi Everyone.

Is a life in the USA still a dream worth pursuing or is it a bad idea now?

With various cutbacks in spending (health, education, etc) is it worth it?

I'm looking to emigrate to the US on an EB-5 visa in a few years as admittedly, the US is where I would prefer to have my children born and raised as I believe they would have more opportunities.

But......?
Sure, give it a shot. What the hell, eh?
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Originally Posted by AmerLisa
RUN, RUN OP, THE SKY IS FALLING!! Gianta$$ has all the stats pointing in the right direction! The end is nigh!!!


So you're saying that that well known socialist bastion the WSJ is talking out of its a$$?

Nice strawman btw.
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Default Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?

Originally Posted by AmerLisa
Hardly, its what I've experienced. Tell me why my experience is a load of bollocks?
So you've actually worked for a company in the UK whose policy is that all holiday has to be booked at the beginning of the year?
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Originally Posted by another bloody yank
Sure, give it a shot. What the hell, eh?
Could be an expensive itch to scratch...
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
3...2...1...'Giana$$'
He'll be along soon, you'll recognize him, he's the one wearing the long hooded robe, otherwise know as the Grim Reaper.....
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Originally Posted by AmerLisa
Where did I say that, Sally dear? Where did I say "everyone"?
Well you've certainly kept the idea afloat.
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