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Old Feb 20th 2012, 6:14 am
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Originally Posted by Michael View Post
You can't pay both. If you pay FICA, your employer matches that amount. If you pay self employment tax, you pay both the employee as well as the employers share.

From your statement, I suspect you pay FICA. Is that correct? You would only pay self employment tax if you were considered an independent contractor.
I pay FICA
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Old Feb 20th 2012, 6:15 am
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Originally Posted by Michael View Post
You can't pay both. If you pay FICA, your employer matches that amount. If you pay self employment tax, you pay both the employee as well as the employers share.

From your statement, I suspect you pay FICA. Is that correct? You would only pay self employment tax if you were considered an independent contractor.
Bartenders and waitstaff are not considered independent contractors.
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Old Feb 20th 2012, 6:26 am
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Thanks penguin bar - very useful insight - I'll tip in cash in future.

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Old Feb 20th 2012, 6:34 am
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Originally Posted by HarryTheSpider View Post
Thanks penguin bar - very useful insight - I'll tip in cash in future.

Just tip for good service please! Would love to see some of you in NYC sometime! I make some mean cocktails!
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Old Feb 20th 2012, 7:02 am
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Oh I understand that it is not always the servers/bartenders fault for crappy service. I was a bartender for 5 years before moving here and my dad has managed numerous pubs. But what I should have rather asked is, if the server/bartender is blatantly rude/giving you crappy service, perhaps even favoring specific customers, do you proceeds to tip them up the full extent? Or, do you tip them minimally and possibly feel like an asshole for doing so despite the situation?
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Old Feb 20th 2012, 12:58 pm
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Originally Posted by CherryPi View Post
Oh I understand that it is not always the servers/bartenders fault for crappy service. I was a bartender for 5 years before moving here and my dad has managed numerous pubs. But what I should have rather asked is, if the server/bartender is blatantly rude/giving you crappy service, perhaps even favoring specific customers, do you proceeds to tip them up the full extent? Or, do you tip them minimally and possibly feel like an asshole for doing so despite the situation?
For what it's worth, I tip 15-20% as 'standard' in a restaurant - I'd tip a buck or two for a cocktail waiter in a bar and I'd tip a buck every round-ish for someone who just gives me beers (only so I get served quick enough!).

I have tipped 0 for bad service (even if the service isn't the fault of the wait staff I wouldn't look into it - bad service = lower tip. AWFUL service = no tip. If that's the kitchen's fault, I would suggest the servers take it up with the kitchen! I would also underpay for a meal if it was bad enough, but I have never yet done this without a manager reducing the bill for me), and I would tip 25 - 30% for exceptional service.

Coffee shops / fast food? No chance.
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Originally Posted by CherryPi View Post
I have no problem with tipping, my only annoyance is when you get crappy service and then when you tip the bare minimum as a reflection, you are the asshole.
Who cares? You aren't going back for a second dose of crappy service, are you? Any place where we feel a minimum tip is due definitely gets crossed off the list. We normally tip more than the 15-20% anyway, particularly if it's a place we are going to return to - wait staff often remembers you and future visits are more pleasant. Wait staff who actually interact with us, joking, teasing or just light chat usually get the bigger tips.
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Old Feb 20th 2012, 3:33 pm
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We rarely eat at restaurants, I never go to the pub anymore and I cut my own hair. I hardly ever have to tip anyone

The only time it comes up is in a restaurant though. Normally we'll round up the bill for the tip if the service is good, which ends up being up around 25%, but if they're shit, we just work out exactly 15% and bugger off. Nine times out of ten the service is fine - which stands to reason, if someone is relying on tips to make money then they are going to provide the best service they can.
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Old Feb 20th 2012, 3:48 pm
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Originally Posted by penguinbar View Post
...Please tip for good service!
I don't think most people have a problem with tipping for good service.

It's just the expectation of having to tip for regular or subpar service.

Which isn't easy when it might not even be the servers fault, if the kitchen makes a mess of the food or holds things up.

Why this system is shit.

Sure you can talk to the manager, but what does that actually achieve? The chef spitting in your food when it next gets sent out and another delay.

It is the way it is though.

I also really hate the whole gaming the bar system. I want a drink, I pay for a drink, I expect it to be a solid drink, I don't expect it to be some weak shit that only gets a good top up if I'm a regular tipper or have to wait extra long because someone else is a regular tipper. Like I said though, that's just the way it is, so I rarely drink out.
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Old Feb 20th 2012, 4:00 pm
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Originally Posted by cosmicjunkie View Post
I cannot believe how many people you are expected to tip here in California! I didn't realize when I came here that I would be partly responsible for paying peoples wages! I have basically been told that these people get minimum wage, so I have to tip the waitress, the hair dresser, the barmaid for every drink she serves me, the lady who did my nails, the coffee house. Everywhere I go there seems to tip jars. This is proving to be quite expensive! I'm not even working at the moment! Another thing I'm having a hard time getting used to is this sales tax. I never seem to know how much I'm going to spend because they add the tax on separately. Does everyone tip all these people who provide services that you are paying for anyway? I don't want to seem tight fisted or anything, but I really don't get it!
Remember its called gratuity. So for eating and drinking out and other service industries work out whether you were happy with the service, if you are tip. If not don't.

As service industry workers they know that they make most their money on tips, so if they don't meet my expectations they don't get tipped.

That said, I would always tip a hairdresser so they do not mess up my next cut..

I have spoken with restaurant managers before who have questioned why no tip and told them, but at the same time I have tipped well despite the kitchen messing up an order.
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Old Feb 20th 2012, 4:01 pm
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My tip is, if you're not prepared to conform to local custom, don't eat out.
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Old Feb 20th 2012, 5:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Uncle Ebenezer View Post
My tip is, if you're not prepared to conform to local custom, don't eat out.
I am conforming to the local custom and I do tip on the rare occasions I eat out. It's all new here for me in the States and I'm just making observations that are unfamiliar to me. I wanted to know what everyone else did where tipping was concerned. That's all!
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Old Feb 20th 2012, 5:28 pm
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I am conforming to the local custom and I do tip on the rare occasions I eat out. It's all new here for me in the States and I'm just making observations that are unfamiliar to me. I wanted to know what everyone else did where tipping was concerned. That's all!
Keep your hair on! That wasn't aimed at you, just a general post - if it had been aimed at you, I'd have quoted you.
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Old Feb 20th 2012, 5:46 pm
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Like I said, I understand the tipping system in restaurants and that's fine. The thing that annoys me is that a lot of other people in other jobs seem to have jumped on the 'tips bandwagon'. For example, on my way here I got lost at the airport in New york. I was very worried because my flight was due. I asked an official airport attendant to help me find my way. He was very nice and charming and personally led me to where I was supposed to be. Upon arrival he turned to me with his big smile and said, "well mam, here we are. Now I hope you're gonna see me alright for my trouble" Basically, I had to tip him because he showed me the way.
Another time, another airport worker put my bag on a trolley and pushed it a few yards to where my husband was waiting for me at the gate. I had another trolley with another bag and a huge dog cage with the dog in it . I could barely see where I was going and yet he took the lightest bag off me. My husband tipped him $5 and he was all pissed off. I had to give him another $5. I think some of these people are just cheeky bastards and that is what annoys me.
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Originally Posted by Uncle Ebenezer View Post
Keep your hair on! That wasn't aimed at you, just a general post - if it had been aimed at you, I'd have quoted you.
Sorry...it's that time of the month....
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