Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
Jan 25th 2011 | 5:15 am
#211
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Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
I am constantly meeting immigrants (from all over the world but quite a few of them are European) that are extremely happy here. I think those types of conversations are more likely to happen IRL. Then I come on here and hear about a lot of unhappy folks and I've come to realize that those are the conversations more likely to happen online.
Regarding the surveys, so much of it is personal preference, but I think countries like France, Germany and Scandanavian countries put a greater emphasis on things like quality, design, intellectual pursuits, cuisine and so on which are not so important to British and American people in general.
Jan 25th 2011 | 5:21 am
#212
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Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
That I think sadly is the crux of it. This forum is unfortunately more of a private club than anything. If you dare to have an opinion or do not appear to be sympathetic to members of the clique then you are 'welcomed' to move on.
To many of the responses on here are tainted by the personal circumstances of some of the posters. A real shame as there is so much potential to share.
Put it like this. I don't care if people have guns or not, I don't care if they are bored or lonely or can't afford health care and I don't care to be bullied into agreeing with them. I reserve the right to bash the British and the UK unreservedly. I am British and thats my right. I have no intention of bashing the rules, laws or customs of another nation as that is not my right. That does not make me ant social, anti american, anti british or anti anything for that matter. I am entitled to have my own opinions. I have not tried to change anyones view to match my own, I have merely used the right to free speech to express my opinion.
Sorry if I am not some soppy kiss ass but that's life. If I wanted to walk in someone else's shoes and understand how tough life is for them I would become a counsellor.
I also don't appreciate having segments of my posts highlighted and taken out of context to make a point or an argument. When I write something I expect the whole post to be taking in context.
To many of the responses on here are tainted by the personal circumstances of some of the posters. A real shame as there is so much potential to share.
Put it like this. I don't care if people have guns or not, I don't care if they are bored or lonely or can't afford health care and I don't care to be bullied into agreeing with them. I reserve the right to bash the British and the UK unreservedly. I am British and thats my right. I have no intention of bashing the rules, laws or customs of another nation as that is not my right. That does not make me ant social, anti american, anti british or anti anything for that matter. I am entitled to have my own opinions. I have not tried to change anyones view to match my own, I have merely used the right to free speech to express my opinion.
Sorry if I am not some soppy kiss ass but that's life. If I wanted to walk in someone else's shoes and understand how tough life is for them I would become a counsellor.
I also don't appreciate having segments of my posts highlighted and taken out of context to make a point or an argument. When I write something I expect the whole post to be taking in context.
Last edited by nethead; Jan 25th 2011 at 5:32 am.
Jan 25th 2011 | 5:24 am
#213
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From: Peachy
Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
That I think sadly is the crux of it. This forum is unfortunately more of a private club than anything. If you dare to have an opinion or do not appear to be sympathetic to members of the clique then you are 'welcomed' to move on.
To many of the responses on here are tainted by the personal circumstances of some of the posters. A real shame as there is so much potential to share.
Put it like this. I don't care if people have guns or not, I don't care if they are bored or lonely or can't afford health care and I don't care to be bullied into agreeing with them. I reserve the right to bash the British and the UK unreservedly. I am British and thats my right. I have no intention of bashing the rules, laws or customs of another nation as that is not my right. That does not make me ant social, anti american, anti british or anti anything for that matter. I am entitled to have my own opinions. I have not tried to change anyones view to match my own, I have merely used the right to free speech to express my opinion.
Sorry if I am not some soppy kiss ass but that's life. If I wanted to walk in someone else's shoes and understand how tough life is for them I would become a counsellor.
I also don't appreciate having segments of my posts highlighted and taken out of context to make a point or an argument. When I write something I expect the whole post to be taking in context.
To many of the responses on here are tainted by the personal circumstances of some of the posters. A real shame as there is so much potential to share.
Put it like this. I don't care if people have guns or not, I don't care if they are bored or lonely or can't afford health care and I don't care to be bullied into agreeing with them. I reserve the right to bash the British and the UK unreservedly. I am British and thats my right. I have no intention of bashing the rules, laws or customs of another nation as that is not my right. That does not make me ant social, anti american, anti british or anti anything for that matter. I am entitled to have my own opinions. I have not tried to change anyones view to match my own, I have merely used the right to free speech to express my opinion.
Sorry if I am not some soppy kiss ass but that's life. If I wanted to walk in someone else's shoes and understand how tough life is for them I would become a counsellor.
I also don't appreciate having segments of my posts highlighted and taken out of context to make a point or an argument. When I write something I expect the whole post to be taking in context.
As for the rest of your post: the fact is that if you post someone on a public forum such as this then you should expect that there will be people that disagree with it, and consequentially it will be challenged. For the most part everyone will go around in circles for a while and nobody will have changed their opinions. Then a few weeks later the same topic will come up again and it will all happen again. Rinse and repeat ad nauseum.
You're more than welcome to bash the bishop... err... bash the Brits... but don't expect everyone to agree with you.
Jan 25th 2011 | 5:24 am
#214
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From: Homeostasis
Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
That's a great point. People who are happy are less likely to need the support of BE.
Regarding the surveys, so much of it is personal preference, but I think countries like France, Germany and Scandanavian countries put a greater emphasis on things like quality, design, intellectual pursuits, cuisine and so on which are not so important to British and American people in general.
Regarding the surveys, so much of it is personal preference, but I think countries like France, Germany and Scandanavian countries put a greater emphasis on things like quality, design, intellectual pursuits, cuisine and so on which are not so important to British and American people in general.
I guess what I'm saying is that rather than asking other people about their experiences, somebody who is really considering the move should become a student of the country they are interested in and, more importantly, of themselves.
Last edited by Leslie; Jan 25th 2011 at 5:30 am.
Jan 25th 2011 | 5:24 am
#215
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Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
That I think sadly is the crux of it. This forum is unfortunately more of a private club than anything. If you dare to have an opinion or do not appear to be sympathetic to members of the clique then you are 'welcomed' to move on.
To many of the responses on here are tainted by the personal circumstances of some of the posters. A real shame as there is so much potential to share.
Put it like this. I don't care if people have guns or not, I don't care if they are bored or lonely or can't afford health care and I don't care to be bullied into agreeing with them. I reserve the right to bash the British and the UK unreservedly. I am British and thats my right. I have no intention of bashing the rules, laws or customs of another nation as that is not my right. That does not make me ant social, anti american, anti british or anti anything for that matter. I am entitled to have my own opinions. I have not tried to change anyones view to match my own, I have merely used the right to free speech to express my opinion.
Sorry if I am not some soppy kiss ass but that's life. If I wanted to walk in someone else's shoes and understand how tough life is for them I would become a counsellor.
I also don't appreciate having segments of my posts highlighted and taken out of context to make a point or an argument. When I write something I expect the whole post to be taking in context.
To many of the responses on here are tainted by the personal circumstances of some of the posters. A real shame as there is so much potential to share.
Put it like this. I don't care if people have guns or not, I don't care if they are bored or lonely or can't afford health care and I don't care to be bullied into agreeing with them. I reserve the right to bash the British and the UK unreservedly. I am British and thats my right. I have no intention of bashing the rules, laws or customs of another nation as that is not my right. That does not make me ant social, anti american, anti british or anti anything for that matter. I am entitled to have my own opinions. I have not tried to change anyones view to match my own, I have merely used the right to free speech to express my opinion.
Sorry if I am not some soppy kiss ass but that's life. If I wanted to walk in someone else's shoes and understand how tough life is for them I would become a counsellor.
I also don't appreciate having segments of my posts highlighted and taken out of context to make a point or an argument. When I write something I expect the whole post to be taking in context.
Keep posting -- each and every persons point of view counts as far as I'm concerned !
Jan 25th 2011 | 5:30 am
#217
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From: Peachy
Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
To add to that, I would say there is a subset of expats that view a move as a panacea for everything that is wrong in their life. Consequentially, they're setting themselves up for a fall.
Jan 25th 2011 | 5:36 am
#218
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From: Where bad things rarely happen in movies
Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
That I think sadly is the crux of it. This forum is unfortunately more of a private club than anything. If you dare to have an opinion or do not appear to be sympathetic to members of the clique then you are 'welcomed' to move on.
To many of the responses on here are tainted by the personal circumstances of some of the posters. A real shame as there is so much potential to share.
Put it like this. I don't care if people have guns or not, I don't care if they are bored or lonely or can't afford health care and I don't care to be bullied into agreeing with them. I reserve the right to bash the British and the UK unreservedly. I am British and thats my right. I have no intention of bashing the rules, laws or customs of another nation as that is not my right. That does not make me ant social, anti american, anti british or anti anything for that matter. I am entitled to have my own opinions. I have not tried to change anyones view to match my own, I have merely used the right to free speech to express my opinion.
Sorry if I am not some soppy kiss ass but that's life. If I wanted to walk in someone else's shoes and understand how tough life is for them I would become a counsellor.
I also don't appreciate having segments of my posts highlighted and taken out of context to make a point or an argument. When I write something I expect the whole post to be taking in context.
To many of the responses on here are tainted by the personal circumstances of some of the posters. A real shame as there is so much potential to share.
Put it like this. I don't care if people have guns or not, I don't care if they are bored or lonely or can't afford health care and I don't care to be bullied into agreeing with them. I reserve the right to bash the British and the UK unreservedly. I am British and thats my right. I have no intention of bashing the rules, laws or customs of another nation as that is not my right. That does not make me ant social, anti american, anti british or anti anything for that matter. I am entitled to have my own opinions. I have not tried to change anyones view to match my own, I have merely used the right to free speech to express my opinion.
Sorry if I am not some soppy kiss ass but that's life. If I wanted to walk in someone else's shoes and understand how tough life is for them I would become a counsellor.
I also don't appreciate having segments of my posts highlighted and taken out of context to make a point or an argument. When I write something I expect the whole post to be taking in context.
Jan 25th 2011 | 5:37 am
#219
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From: Homeostasis
Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
Why is it that whenever a newbie gets in a huff about their views being challenged there is a mention of the clique? It's totally absurd. There is no clique (it's be renamed the community).
As for the rest of your post: the fact is that if you post someone on a public forum such as this then you should expect that there will be people that disagree with it, and consequentially it will be challenged. For the most part everyone will go around in circles for a while and nobody will have changed their opinions. Then a few weeks later the same topic will come up again and it will all happen again. Rinse and repeat ad nauseum.
You're more than welcome to bash the bishop... err... bash the Brits... but don't expect everyone to agree with you.
As for the rest of your post: the fact is that if you post someone on a public forum such as this then you should expect that there will be people that disagree with it, and consequentially it will be challenged. For the most part everyone will go around in circles for a while and nobody will have changed their opinions. Then a few weeks later the same topic will come up again and it will all happen again. Rinse and repeat ad nauseum.
You're more than welcome to bash the bishop... err... bash the Brits... but don't expect everyone to agree with you.
Splendid!
Jan 25th 2011 | 5:39 am
#221
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Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
Jan 25th 2011 | 5:41 am
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Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
There was a thread a few years ago on this sort of thing, that sort of came to the conclusion that the reason there were more folk posting on the MBTTUK forum from Aus/NZ than the US was that the folk moving that way were more "escapist" in nature and the folk moving this way were more for job and/or family reasons.
Jan 25th 2011 | 5:47 am
#225
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Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
