View Poll Results: What is your level of formal education?
None! Didn't get me where I is through no book learnin'!
3
3.90%
O'Levels / GCSEs / CSEs etc.
7
9.09%
A'Levels etc.
8
10.39%
Vocational Qualifications (NVQ / City & Guilds etc.)
9
11.69%
Bachelor's Degree
27
35.06%
Master's Degree
9
11.69%
Professional Degree (MBA / MD / JD etc.)
6
7.79%
Doctorate
8
10.39%
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Qualifications?
Jun 11th 2004, 2:02 pm
#61
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Re: Qualifications?
Originally posted by Chopper-Chris
Where would we be if University students all came out with the same attitude that school pupils left school with?
Where would we be if University students all came out with the same attitude that school pupils left school with?
I chose not to continue with university, further education at that stage wasn't for me. Does that mean I know have this 'attitude' you're talking about?
Jun 11th 2004, 2:21 pm
#62
dealing with it
Joined: Feb 2003
Location: DC
Posts: 2,916
Re: Qualifications?
Originally posted by RoB1833
And what attitude is that??
I chose not to continue with university, further education at that stage wasn't for me. Does that mean I know have this 'attitude' you're talking about?
And what attitude is that??
I chose not to continue with university, further education at that stage wasn't for me. Does that mean I know have this 'attitude' you're talking about?
now don't get the hump, it wasn't directed personally,
maybe its an age thing, but from my experience and my own memory, school did nothing to inspire me to learn for myself, frankly I couldn't wait to get out of the place and actually work for a living...It just didn't motivate me or interest me (thats the attitude I was referring to)
having said that, when I went to university, I became a different person, and I found the opposite, I discovered a thirst for understanding and knowledge that I had never recognised in me before, I was actually interested in the subject (I studied Biochem at Leicester).
The true test came when completing my PPL (H) and CPL (H)...the ground school was torture, all physics (never a favorite subject) and principles of flight, but again, with an interest in the subject, and a massive desire to reach the goal...I found it very easy to 'get my head' around it all eventually.
Perhaps its simple motivation that school leavers lack, my concern is that many of them go on to further/higher education simply because they can't think of anything better to do.
Jun 11th 2004, 2:23 pm
#63
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Re: Qualifications?
Originally posted by Chopper-Chris
now don't get the hump, it wasn't directed personally,
maybe its an age thing, but from my experience and my own memory, school did nothing to inspire me to learn for myself, frankly I couldn't wait to get out of the place and actually work for a living...It just didn't motivate me or interest me (thats the attitude I was referring to)
having said that, when I went to university, I became a different person, and I found the opposite, I discovered a thirst for understanding and knowledge that I had never recognised in me before, I was actually interested in the subject (I studied Biochem at Leicester).
The true test came when completing my PPL (H) and CPL (H)...the ground school was torture, all physics (never a favorite subject) and principles of flight, but again, with an interest in the subject, and a massive desire to reach the goal...I found it very easy to 'get my head' around it all eventually.
Perhaps its simple motivation that school leavers lack, my concern is that many of them go on to further/higher education simply because they can't think of anything better to do.
now don't get the hump, it wasn't directed personally,
maybe its an age thing, but from my experience and my own memory, school did nothing to inspire me to learn for myself, frankly I couldn't wait to get out of the place and actually work for a living...It just didn't motivate me or interest me (thats the attitude I was referring to)
having said that, when I went to university, I became a different person, and I found the opposite, I discovered a thirst for understanding and knowledge that I had never recognised in me before, I was actually interested in the subject (I studied Biochem at Leicester).
The true test came when completing my PPL (H) and CPL (H)...the ground school was torture, all physics (never a favorite subject) and principles of flight, but again, with an interest in the subject, and a massive desire to reach the goal...I found it very easy to 'get my head' around it all eventually.
Perhaps its simple motivation that school leavers lack, my concern is that many of them go on to further/higher education simply because they can't think of anything better to do.
Jun 11th 2004, 2:24 pm
#64
dealing with it
Joined: Feb 2003
Location: DC
Posts: 2,916
Re: Qualifications?
Originally posted by veryfunny
Hello Life scientist, I take it that you studies some Genetics?
Hello Life scientist, I take it that you studies some Genetics?
why
?
Jun 11th 2004, 2:53 pm
#65
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Re: Qualifications?
Originally posted by Chopper-Chris
it was part of the course...but a long time ago!
why
?
it was part of the course...but a long time ago!
why
?
Jun 11th 2004, 2:53 pm
#66
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Joined: Jul 2003
Location: Missouri
Posts: 21,886
Re: Qualifications?
Originally posted by Chopper-Chris
I discovered a thirst for understanding and knowledge that I had never recognised in me before,
I discovered a thirst for understanding and knowledge that I had never recognised in me before,
Jun 11th 2004, 2:54 pm
#67
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I do have a question for all those MBA people out there, was it worth it?
Jun 11th 2004, 3:12 pm
#68
dealing with it
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Re: Qualifications?
Originally posted by manc1976
I had a thirst at uni too mate, not to do with learning though.
I had a thirst at uni too mate, not to do with learning though.
Jun 11th 2004, 5:23 pm
#69
Forum Regular
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 52
Re: Qualifications?
Originally posted by Chopper-Chris
You actually mean, "you're right"
Shame they didn't use some of that money to educate you in correct use of English grammar.
You actually mean, "you're right"
Shame they didn't use some of that money to educate you in correct use of English grammar.
Hey bright boy
I love dealing with intellectuals like you. "You're" right I do not excel in grammar. Moreover, I can never achieve the dizzy heights of educational excellence that you so clearly have. However, I can earn more in a year than you can in a lifetime.
Not bad for a boy from Brixton.
Jun 11th 2004, 5:44 pm
#70
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Location: Yeeha, US
Posts: 739
Re: Qualifications?
Originally posted by hhmaker
Hey bright boy
I love dealing with intellectuals like you. "You're" right I do not excel in grammar. Moreover, I can never achieve the dizzy heights of educational excellence that you so clearly have. However, I can earn more in a year than you can in a lifetime.
Not bad for a boy from Brixton.
Hey bright boy
I love dealing with intellectuals like you. "You're" right I do not excel in grammar. Moreover, I can never achieve the dizzy heights of educational excellence that you so clearly have. However, I can earn more in a year than you can in a lifetime.
Not bad for a boy from Brixton.
1. How do you put a giraffe into a refrigerator? The correct answer is: Open the refrigerator, put in the giraffe, and close the door. This question tests whether you tend to do simple things in an overly complicated way.
2. How do you put an elephant into a refrigerator? Did you say, " Open the refrigerator, put in the elephant, and close the refrigerator?"(Wrong Answer):Correct Answer: Open the refrigerator, take out the giraffe, put in the elephant and close the door. This tests your ability to think through the repercussions of your previous actions.
3. The King of the Forest is hosting an animal conference. All the animals attend except one. Which animal does not attend? Did you say you don't know? Of course you know. Correct Answer is: The Elephant. The elephant is in the refrigerator. You just put him in there.
This tests your memory. OK, even if you did not answer the first three questions correctly, you still have one more chance to show your true abilities.
4. There is a river you must cross but it is inhabited by crocodiles. How do you manage it? Correct Answer: You swim across. All the crocodiles are attending the Animal Meeting. This tests whether you learn quickly from your mistakes.
How'z that? Are you a qualified professional? Hahahaaaaaaaa!
Around 90% of the professionals tested got all questions wrong. But many preschoolers got several correct answers. This conclusively disproves the theory that most professionals have the brains of a four year old.
Jun 11th 2004, 6:10 pm
#71
Not living a 9 to 5 life
Joined: Jun 2002
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 11,061
Re: Qualifications?
Originally posted by dunroving
<<snip>>
People who go to college have a certain type of intelligence/way of thinking/attitude, and this is fostered at the college.
<<snip>>
People who go to college have a certain type of intelligence/way of thinking/attitude, and this is fostered at the college.
There's many ways to measure intelligence outside the academic realm. However, for the sake of consistency and speed, universities and employers look to academic qualifications first as anyone who hasn't got a High School diploma can probably attest.
Jun 11th 2004, 6:12 pm
#72
Maño-Americano
Joined: Apr 2003
Location: In the heart of the Ozarks
Posts: 10,216
Re: Qualifications?
Originally posted by Gross50
The following short quiz consists of 4 questions and will tell you whether you are qualified to be a "professional." Scroll down for each answer. The questions are NOT that difficult.
1. How do you put a giraffe into a refrigerator? The correct answer is: Open the refrigerator, put in the giraffe, and close the door. This question tests whether you tend to do simple things in an overly complicated way.
2. How do you put an elephant into a refrigerator? Did you say, " Open the refrigerator, put in the elephant, and close the refrigerator?"(Wrong Answer):Correct Answer: Open the refrigerator, take out the giraffe, put in the elephant and close the door. This tests your ability to think through the repercussions of your previous actions.
3. The King of the Forest is hosting an animal conference. All the animals attend except one. Which animal does not attend? Did you say you don't know? Of course you know. Correct Answer is: The Elephant. The elephant is in the refrigerator. You just put him in there.
This tests your memory. OK, even if you did not answer the first three questions correctly, you still have one more chance to show your true abilities.
4. There is a river you must cross but it is inhabited by crocodiles. How do you manage it? Correct Answer: You swim across. All the crocodiles are attending the Animal Meeting. This tests whether you learn quickly from your mistakes.
How'z that? Are you a qualified professional? Hahahaaaaaaaa!
Around 90% of the professionals tested got all questions wrong. But many preschoolers got several correct answers. This conclusively disproves the theory that most professionals have the brains of a four year old.
The following short quiz consists of 4 questions and will tell you whether you are qualified to be a "professional." Scroll down for each answer. The questions are NOT that difficult.
1. How do you put a giraffe into a refrigerator? The correct answer is: Open the refrigerator, put in the giraffe, and close the door. This question tests whether you tend to do simple things in an overly complicated way.
2. How do you put an elephant into a refrigerator? Did you say, " Open the refrigerator, put in the elephant, and close the refrigerator?"(Wrong Answer):Correct Answer: Open the refrigerator, take out the giraffe, put in the elephant and close the door. This tests your ability to think through the repercussions of your previous actions.
3. The King of the Forest is hosting an animal conference. All the animals attend except one. Which animal does not attend? Did you say you don't know? Of course you know. Correct Answer is: The Elephant. The elephant is in the refrigerator. You just put him in there.
This tests your memory. OK, even if you did not answer the first three questions correctly, you still have one more chance to show your true abilities.
4. There is a river you must cross but it is inhabited by crocodiles. How do you manage it? Correct Answer: You swim across. All the crocodiles are attending the Animal Meeting. This tests whether you learn quickly from your mistakes.
How'z that? Are you a qualified professional? Hahahaaaaaaaa!
Around 90% of the professionals tested got all questions wrong. But many preschoolers got several correct answers. This conclusively disproves the theory that most professionals have the brains of a four year old.
Jun 11th 2004, 7:07 pm
#73
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Originally posted by Vicky88
Effi
To a large degree being in the right place at the right time does play a part. However, I think being in the right place at the right time is a bit more difficult these days because of the way they have tightened up on H1B's due to high unemployment in the US. I think anyone without a degree trying to get a visa for the US these days would struggle. Not saying it can't be done, but it would be difficult trying to convince INS that the applicant can do a job that no US citizen can do without having that piece of paper.
Effi
To a large degree being in the right place at the right time does play a part. However, I think being in the right place at the right time is a bit more difficult these days because of the way they have tightened up on H1B's due to high unemployment in the US. I think anyone without a degree trying to get a visa for the US these days would struggle. Not saying it can't be done, but it would be difficult trying to convince INS that the applicant can do a job that no US citizen can do without having that piece of paper.
Jun 11th 2004, 7:14 pm
#74
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Re: Qualifications?
Originally posted by dbj1000
Good for you! Good luck - as you know, it will be worth it when you get here and are job hunting...
...unless you find yourself being interviewed by a senior British executive with no paper qualifications!!!
Good for you! Good luck - as you know, it will be worth it when you get here and are job hunting...
...unless you find yourself being interviewed by a senior British executive with no paper qualifications!!!
Jun 11th 2004, 7:42 pm
#75
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Thread Starter
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Posts: 4,323
Re: Qualifications?
Originally posted by effi
So I guess 25 years of hard work and experience in a single field counts for nothing.
So I guess 25 years of hard work and experience in a single field counts for nothing.
Geez, lighten up! It was a JOKE.
