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Old Mar 13th 2005, 5:07 am
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Originally Posted by anotherlimey
Well perhaps it's just me then.

However I know most of my British friends really wouldn't care, and in some cases we'll play up the campness just for laughs. I've tried the same with some of the guys in the office, they just look at me in disgust! It's almost like I'm attacking their machoness.
oh dear maybe calling someone gay is not the best way to keep friends!
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oh dear maybe calling someone gay is not the best way to keep friends!
never mind
Perhaps I wasn't making it clear. I meant I play up the campness for the people in the office, just for laughs; maybe we just have a different sense of humour.
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Yeah, I can't see an advert that says "I'm Mandy at weekends" going over well with American men.

My college-aged British friends have no problems with playing "metrosexual" and posing for camp pictures -- they do, however, call it "ghey". I still can't see "All-American" college boys even pretending to be gay.

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Yeah, I can't see an advert that says "I'm Mandy at weekends" going over well with American men.

My college-aged British friends have no problems with playing "metrosexual" and posing for camp pictures -- they do, however, call it "ghey". I still can't see "All-American" college boys even pretending to be gay.

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Actually my son and his buddies did joke about it when in college- all of them now married or engaged. However, no ill will meant, since I do have several gay friends and treasures they are too.
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Originally Posted by cindyabs
Actually my son and his buddies did joke about it when in college- all of them now married or engaged. However, no ill will meant, since I do have several gay friends and treasures they are too.
No ill will on my part, either.... Two of our friends got dared to kiss each other for the camera and it's actually quite a cute picture! We all have copies of it; whereas I know that my own friends in college and most of the boys I know now in the US might've done it on a dare but would NOT want their picture plastered everywhere

In general though, we are talking about educated people in both countries, who are statistically less likely to be gay-bashers than people with low educational attainment.
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In general though, we are talking about educated people in both countries, who are statistically less likely to be gay-bashers than people with low educational attainment.[/QUOTE]

yes theres nothing worse than someone who dislikes people for their race/sexual orientation i would like to think that most of the folks on here just aint like that!
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Scarlett- if I'm ever in Texas, the pint is on me!

I totally agree with you. I'm the 'merican married to the Brit husband, yes, but my "bird of a feather" mentality recognizes all nationalities.
Actually, one of my oldest and dearest female friends is a British woman whom I met when she ended up staying at our place whilst travelling back in the late 80's. We stayed in touch over the years, with visits, letters, phone calls, and later email. We used to joke we both end up being spintsers together. Eventually, she moved from London to Edinburgh. While in Edinburgh, she met her husband, (a Scot). Right when they started getting serious, he got offered a job in Dallas (pooter guy). They were LD for awhile, and eventually she moved to Dallas, they got married, had a child, moved back to Scotland and had another one.

Anyway, when she first moved to Dallas, she had a hard time making friends- like "bird of a feather" friends. I came to visit, and lemme tellya- Bawlamore seemed a lot like across the pond than Dallas did.- I kinda felt a bit out of place myself. I'm glad you've managed to find some good gal pals yourself in Texas.

Anyway, when this friend and her husband were not yet married, they did a visit back to Edinburgh for the millenium NYE. At the time, I was taking a course in the UK and living in London for a few months. My now husband and I had just been dating about a month and we went up there for NYE. A couple of weeks later, my friend was down in London and she and I hung out one afternoon. I confided to her that the thing I had going with Paul was different than any other guy I'd ever dated, and it must be kinda what she felt when she first started dating her fella. I remember telling her that " It wouldn't matter if he was from the plant Zorcon, I would still feel this way about him". She laughed, and in her wisdom, replied "That may be true, but his "Britishness" is part of the package- part of who he is, and if you love him, you must love that, too"

I think that's it. He and I have so much in common, we see the world in a similar way, we have shared sensibilites and interests and our friends are all cut from a similar cloth.
Might I have found that in an American (or Australian, Canadian, Spanish, etc) guy? Quite possibly- but obviously fate had other plans in store.

I love my husband and my dearest old friend for who they are, and how we relate to one another. Thier "Britishness" is only part of the package. And that being said, I also think I've got some pretty cool American (and Canadian, and Australian, and Mexican and Spanish, etc) friends (*male* *and* female) as well.
I feel grateful in this regard, most certainly.
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Originally Posted by ms_bhon
Scarlett- if I'm ever in Texas, the pint is on me!

I totally agree with you. I'm the 'merican married to the Brit husband, yes, but my "bird of a feather" mentality recognizes all nationalities.
Actually, one of my oldest and dearest female friends is a British woman whom I met when she ended up staying at our place whilst travelling back in the late 80's. We stayed in touch over the years, with visits, letters, phone calls, and later email. We used to joke we both end up being spintsers together. Eventually, she moved from London to Edinburgh. While in Edinburgh, she met her husband, (a Scot). Right when they started getting serious, he got offered a job in Dallas (pooter guy). They were LD for awhile, and eventually she moved to Dallas, they got married, had a child, moved back to Scotland and had another one.

Anyway, when she first moved to Dallas, she had a hard time making friends- like "bird of a feather" friends. I came to visit, and lemme tellya- Bawlamore seemed a lot like across the pond than Dallas did.- I kinda felt a bit out of place myself. I'm glad you've managed to find some good gal pals yourself in Texas.

Anyway, when this friend and her husband were not yet married, they did a visit back to Edinburgh for the millenium NYE. At the time, I was taking a course in the UK and living in London for a few months. My now husband and I had just been dating about a month and we went up there for NYE. A couple of weeks later, my friend was down in London and she and I hung out one afternoon. I confided to her that the thing I had going with Paul was different than any other guy I'd ever dated, and it must be kinda what she felt when she first started dating her fella. I remember telling her that " It wouldn't matter if he was from the plant Zorcon, I would still feel this way about him". She laughed, and in her wisdom, replied "That may be true, but his "Britishness" is part of the package- part of who he is, and if you love him, you must love that, too"

I think that's it. He and I have so much in common, we see the world in a similar way, we have shared sensibilites and interests and our friends are all cut from a similar cloth.
Might I have found that in an American (or Australian, Canadian, Spanish, etc) guy? Quite possibly- but obviously fate had other plans in store.

I love my husband and my dearest old friend for who they are, and how we relate to one another. Thier "Britishness" is only part of the package. And that being said, I also think I've got some pretty cool American (and Canadian, and Australian, and Mexican and Spanish, etc) friends (*male* *and* female) as well.
I feel grateful in this regard, most certainly.
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Scarlett- where are you in Texas? I was in Austin briefly on a business trip and thought it seemed cool- plus- The Butthole Surfers and (filmaker) Richard Linklater are both from Texas- and I've got some friends from Texas who live here in Bawlamore. My impression is that there is definately some counter-culture bohemian scene to be had down there- you just have to dig a bit more...

Anyway, getting back to the OP- I've really come to realize that things never worked out with any of the American (or Australian, or *other* British) guys I'd dated before I met my husband because they just weren't meant to. I was meant to be single, as was he when we met so that we could fall in love and eventually get married and share a life with one another (I know, I'm a romantic ). Another thing my wise friend once told was that she wishes she could have gone back in time to her 20-something self and tell her to relax and not be so worried... "he" really was "out there" somewhere, it just wasn't time to meet "him yet".
I actually dated some pretty nice guys, several I'm still friends with- they just weren't meant to be the guys I'd join lives with, that's all...
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Originally Posted by ms_bhon
Scarlett- where are you in Texas? I was in Austin briefly on a business trip and thought it seemed cool- plus- The Butthole Surfers and (filmaker) Richard Linklater are both from Texas- and I've got some friends from Texas who live here in Bawlamore. My impression is that there is definately some counter-culture bohemian scene to be had down there- you just have to dig a bit more...

Anyway, getting back to the OP- I've really come to realize that things never worked out with any of the American (or Australian, or *other* British) guys I'd dated before I met my husband because they just weren't meant to. I was meant to be single, as was he when we met so that we could fall in love and eventually get married and share a life with one another (I know, I'm a romantic ). Another thing my wise friend once told was that she wishes she could have gone back in time to her 20-something self and tell her to relax and not be so worried... "he" really was "out there" somewhere, it just wasn't time to meet "him yet".
I actually dated some pretty nice guys, several I'm still friends with- they just weren't meant to be the guys I'd join lives with, that's all...
I'm in Dallas. Not as much counter-culture as somewhere like Austin but it's here, thank God. Even in the middle of Bushland there are a few blue lagoons - our city, for example, voted in a Hispanic, female, gay Sherriff during those last elections, so it's not true that Texas is blood-red all over

Mind you, if I had a cent for every bumper stick with pro-Bush stickers I'd probably be much too rich to be a good socialist (which most people over here think means communist, by-the-by!).

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Originally Posted by ms_bhon
Scarlett- where are you in Texas? I was in Austin briefly on a business trip and thought it seemed cool- plus- The Butthole Surfers and (filmaker) Richard Linklater are both from Texas- and I've got some friends from Texas who live here in Bawlamore. My impression is that there is definately some counter-culture bohemian scene to be had down there- you just have to dig a bit more...
I'm one hop away from Richard (who's the "Richard" quoted in the lyrics to REM's "What's The Frequency Kenneth") Linklater -- we have a friend in common. He lives in Bastrop.

I think this is a great place to live and wish more expats would give it consideration over Florida!
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