Guns?
Jun 7th 2005, 5:04 pm
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by edwords
Mayor of a different caliber--A story about my town's mayor and his in-home shooting range.
http://www.azcentral.com/community/g...nbragsZ12.html
http://www.azcentral.com/community/g...nbragsZ12.html
Mayor Berman a softy? Hardly. For target practice, he said he "used to use pictures of the Ayatollah Khomeini."
Jun 7th 2005, 5:18 pm
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by edwords
Mayor of a different caliber--A story about my town's mayor and his in-home shooting range.
http://www.azcentral.com/community/g...nbragsZ12.html
http://www.azcentral.com/community/g...nbragsZ12.html
Jun 7th 2005, 5:48 pm
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Re: Guns?
Guns don't kill people, wappers do.
Jun 8th 2005, 1:46 am
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by MightBe
Woosers.
Jun 8th 2005, 1:41 pm
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by Duncan Roberts
Guns don't kill people, wappers do.
Jun 9th 2005, 12:50 am
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by MightBe
Shit!! and I really liked the Burger King ones ...
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Jun 9th 2005, 2:03 am
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by ScyLarc
A friends neighbour (who's a cop) recently put the fear of god into them by telling lots of horrific story's of the awful things he sees when he's on his rounds. He has told them everyone should have a gun and they are crazy if they don't. It's got them convinced and they are going to take trips to his shooting range to test some out. I think owning a gun is madness, the sheer idea of having one in the house terrifies me. I don't buy the protection argument, if someone creeps into your house you aren't going to have time to get your gun and shoot them. I think you are far more likely to either be shot with it yourself or accidentally shoot a member of your own family.
I knew before i moved here that lots of Americans are very comfortable owning guns or rifles but i have been surprised at my severity of my reaction to the mere thought of owning a gun. I'm sure i need to stop thinking of them in UK terms, (it never crossed my mind that any of my UK neighbours may have owned a fire arm) and I do wonder if i should just get used to the fact that a large number of people do have weapons.
I guess it got me wondering how many of us ex-pats have become used the the level of gun ownership here and if so have you got any tips how i can become less worried by the fact that my neighbours are probably sleeping with a loaded gun in their bedside cabinets!
I knew before i moved here that lots of Americans are very comfortable owning guns or rifles but i have been surprised at my severity of my reaction to the mere thought of owning a gun. I'm sure i need to stop thinking of them in UK terms, (it never crossed my mind that any of my UK neighbours may have owned a fire arm) and I do wonder if i should just get used to the fact that a large number of people do have weapons.
I guess it got me wondering how many of us ex-pats have become used the the level of gun ownership here and if so have you got any tips how i can become less worried by the fact that my neighbours are probably sleeping with a loaded gun in their bedside cabinets!
We, as parents always check with new kids parents, if they have firearms, and how are they stored, before our kids go to someone new house.
We owned shot guns in the UK, and were checked by the local bobbies, once a year I think, as to how we stored the gun and how far away the ammo was kept from the gun itself.
We just used these for clay shooting, and nothing else, even though we lived in the country.
We also used to live in Louisianna, and it used to freak me out when I saw some guy driving a truck infront on me, with his shotgun hanging from the back window.
Still freaks me out, just a few weeks ago, a kid was shot in the head, not too far from where I live, because it was a inneation (sp?) test for 4 black boys, and yes, they were black boys, for their gang, they had to break into 3 houses and kill a white rich boy, all in the same night, which they did. The boy they shot, and killed, was 19, and his girlfriend was with him in the car at the time, and they just happened to be stopping at a 4 way stop, when this happened.
They caught the "shooter" who was 17, I think.
So, yes, I still worry every day about guns, especially when my eldest is nearly able to drive on his own in the evenings, and this could have happened to him, just because he was there..
I just makes me sick to the stomach, that these things happen, just for fun, or for a dare
As far as I am concerned, the USA is the sesspit of gun crime, and it will only get worse, and Britian is sure to follow suit
So, there is no way, you can get used to your neighbours gun habits, and if you have kids, check check and check again, or you may live to regret it
But that is just my humble opinion and experience, and I am sure many of you disagree..
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Jun 9th 2005, 2:31 pm
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by Perfumdiva1
Still freaks me out, just a few weeks ago, a kid was shot in the head, not too far from where I live, because it was a inneation (sp?) test for 4 black boys, and yes, they were black boys, for their gang, they had to break into 3 houses and kill a white rich boy, all in the same night, which they did. The boy they shot, and killed, was 19, and his girlfriend was with him in the car at the time, and they just happened to be stopping at a 4 way stop, when this happened.
What's more worrying is that some kids feel it's necessary to join a gang in the first place.
Jun 9th 2005, 4:07 pm
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by anotherlimey
What's more worrying is that some kids feel it's necessary to join a gang in the first place.
Jun 9th 2005, 4:07 pm
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by anotherlimey
Although that's more of a gang problem than a gun problem. They would kill with a knife for 'initiation'.
What's more worrying is that some kids feel it's necessary to join a gang in the first place.
Jun 9th 2005, 4:13 pm
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by Dant3
The difference, though slight, being that a gun allows you to distance yourself from the violence. A knife requires physical effort, one-on-one contact and blood. A gun allows you to cowardly pull the trigger from a distance and walk away. The guns that gang members use are, of course, stolen from the idiots who legally own them but keep them in the nightstand.
Whether you are in Los Angeles, Belfast, Paris or Rio, whereever you find poverty and a general lack of hope amongst the young male population, you will always have gangs.
Whether you are in Los Angeles, Belfast, Paris or Rio, whereever you find poverty and a general lack of hope amongst the young male population, you will always have gangs.
Jun 9th 2005, 4:28 pm
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by NC Penguin
I didn't know whether I would feel comfortable using a firearm but having had the training, plus instruction from the other half who's used pistols in the past (as a teenager, all legally of course), I'm feel I can trust myself with firearms. Regular practise all helps tremendously. No point having firearms without practise to at least keep up skills.
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Jun 9th 2005, 4:31 pm
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by ImHere
And to those who say they prefer if only criminals and cops have guns....I hope this makes you feel safer.
Jun 9th 2005, 4:49 pm
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by Guelder Rose
... but it is bloody hilarious!
Jun 9th 2005, 4:53 pm
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by Dant3
The difference, though slight, being that a gun allows you to distance yourself from the violence. A knife requires physical effort, one-on-one contact and blood. A gun allows you to cowardly pull the trigger from a distance and walk away. The guns that gang members use are, of course, stolen from the idiots who legally own them but keep them in the nightstand.
Originally Posted by Dant3
Whether you are in Los Angeles, Belfast, Paris or Rio, whereever you find poverty and a general lack of hope amongst the young male population, you will always have gangs.