Guns?
#151
Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by ScyLarc
I got a nasty papercut once when a colleague ran past me with a poster, does that count?
#152
Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by anotherlimey
US: 8259 intentional homicides with a firearm
UK: 62
EDIT: per capita the UK shows 0.00, whereas the US is 0.03. don't know what population estimates they are using though.
UK: 62
EDIT: per capita the UK shows 0.00, whereas the US is 0.03. don't know what population estimates they are using though.
#153
Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by snowbunny
Did he have criminal intent?
#154
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by snowbunny
Did he have criminal intent?
#155
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by anotherlimey
Personally I think the gun issue is overrated. Gang problems are far worse.
However, where people seem to differ is how to deal with the problem. There are those who would like to see preventative action to help stop children joining gangs in the first place, and there are those who want reactionary solutions such as tougher policing and sentencing. Unfortunately, as gang violence tends to be isolated within poor communities with a tradition of not voting, it is unlikely that any government soon will try thinking of any solutions.
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by ScyLarc
I have heard this is the main reason why people have a gun in their homes.
I don't want to sound funny (i am honestly interested in your reply) but do you think you would have the chance to shoot first if you were attacked in your bed?
I know if i was woken from sleep even if i had a loaded gun under my pillow i'm sure they would get me first and in my groggy state i would be more likely to shoot the cat rather than an attacker!
I don't want to sound funny (i am honestly interested in your reply) but do you think you would have the chance to shoot first if you were attacked in your bed?
I know if i was woken from sleep even if i had a loaded gun under my pillow i'm sure they would get me first and in my groggy state i would be more likely to shoot the cat rather than an attacker!
If I was attacked in my bed it would be highly unlikely I would be able to and I certainly wouldnt even attempt to get my gun in that state. Although its equally unlikely that I would be attacked in my bed without the house alarm being triggered. Being sleepy and holding a gun are not a good combination. But then let me put it another way, I, unlike many I know, wouldnt go quietly and expect there to be happy ending if I just let them take what they want. I guess we are all different.
#157
Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by anotherlimey
He doesn't need to in FL. Just a dangerous piece of paper in your position will result in me using the stand your ground law.
#158
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by anotherlimey
He doesn't need to in FL. Just a dangerous piece of paper in your position will result in me using the stand your ground law.
#159
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by snowbunny
Dangerous piece of paper in my possession? What, a child support order?
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by ImHere
Ah that chestnut. You do realise this law doesnt actually change the legalities of self defence? It just clarifies what is already in the law. You still must be in immediate fear of your or a third parties loss of life of great bodily harm to be justified in shooting. If the cops turned up and you'd just shot someone who wasnt about to kill you or seriously hurt you, you are going to jail.
#161
Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by anotherlimey
I propose we wrap the edges of all sheets of paper in rubber. All those in favour say Supercalifragilisticexpialidociouss.
Going to be a tough job retrofitting the computer printers to handle that paper.
#162
Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by ImHere
But then let me put it another way, I, unlike many I know, wouldnt go quietly and expect there to be happy ending if I just let them take what they want. I guess we are all different.
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by Dant3
action to help stop children joining gangs in the first place,
#164
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by ImHere
Ah that chestnut. You do realise this law doesnt actually change the legalities of self defence? It just clarifies what is already in the law. You still must be in immediate fear of your or a third parties loss of life of great bodily harm to be justified in shooting. If the cops turned up and you'd just shot someone who wasnt about to kill you or seriously hurt you, you are going to jail.
#165
Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by ScyLarc
I have to admit my husband and i have discussed what we would do if for example someone with a knife or a gun tried to force us into a car. We both agree there is no way we are getting into that car, we would fight as hard as we could. Despite this my gut feeling is still that i will never have a gun, i just feel by having one i am adding to cycle of violence in the world. Idealistic i know, maybe in 5 years i will have changed my mind but i hope not.